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From Lawn Seats To Legends: A Fan’s Aerosmith Journey | Episode 406
From Lawn Seats To Legends: A Fan’s Aerosmith Journey | Episode 406
A lawn seat, a rumor about a second stage, and a plan that paid off—this is a love letter to live music and a reminder that every instrument can be a voice. We open with gratitude for a global community that keeps our mental health mission moving, then dive into a decades-long relationship with Aerosmith: the grit of early struggles, the thrill of being fifteen feet from Steven Tyler and Joe Perry, and the quiet power of a taped setlist that meant more than any VIP badge.
Not every night glows the same. A short show before an NFL kickoff tests expectations and reveals the messy calculus of touring: broadcast schedules, vocal conservation, and tough choices about which hits make the cut. Then comes redemption at the Concert for Legends in Canton, where the catalog unfolds in full—Dream On, Cryin’, Love in an Elevator, and the long-awaited I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing—turning a field into a shared choir. A small detail seals the connection: the band’s rider asked for menus from local restaurants, and a beloved hometown spot fed the crew. Big stages run on local love.
This story sits at the heart of what we do. Music is a language for people who can’t always find words. A guitar solo can testify, a drumline can steady a heartbeat, and a chorus can make strangers feel less alone. That’s why we center voices—sung, strummed, or spoken—and why we believe art carries real weight in mental health, trauma, and recovery. If you’ve ever left a show feeling lighter than you arrived, you know what we mean.
If this resonates, help us keep going. Subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a quick review so more people can find the show. What concert memory still moves you? We’d love to hear it.
Chapter Markers
0:00 Gratitude And Global Mission
3:45 Keeping Politics Out, Centering Mental Health
7:36 Introducing Aerosmith As Today’s Focus
10:50 Early Band Struggles And Resilience
14:35 The Two-Stage Amphitheater Strategy
21:20 Up Close With Steven Tyler And Joe Perry
28:10 The Missing Setlist And Lasting Memories
31:40 The Short Show Before NFL Kickoff
41:20 Hits, Expectations, And Live Tradeoffs
47:30 Concert For Legends: A Perfect Night
55:10 Local Roots: The Tour Rider Story
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Hey everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices TV Show and Podcast. Thank you for joining us, and thank you for uh being there for us uh since the beginning, and we are grateful to have you with us on this show. If you can do us a big favor and hit that subscribe button, uh give us the big thumbs up, like, follow, share, uh, we would greatly appreciate it. Those are free to do, and we uh would um you know be uh greatly, greatly thankful if you could do that as well as text or um reach out to your your followers, your your networks, uh, and let them know about the voices for voices TV show and podcasts, either text them, send them an invite, chat them, uh, and and also follow us on all of our social media accounts. And we from time to time do TikTok lives. And if you're around uh when we are doing those, uh feel free to drop in on those. Uh but the main thing is uh this show is helping people uh across the world. Uh it's just uh it's just an incredible feat. 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And if you weren't with us, if you weren't watching and listening, we won't have a show. Uh, so thank you for uh keep tuning in uh episode in, episode out, watching, listening, uh again, across the world. We we we explain that every show, uh over a hundred countries, territories, provinces, uh over a thousand cities. Uh that's we owe all that to you, our viewers, our listeners, and if you could uh help us out by sharing the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast, we'd greatly appreciate that. And we have nothing but love for everybody in the world. We we realize there are political differences, there's differences of all sorts, uh, but we're more about the people, we're more about the culture uh than we are about the the politics. Sometimes politics may play a role, may come into an episode or so, uh, but we don't we don't do that. We try not to do that on a regular basis. Uh we we try to remain grounded and based uh in mental health, trauma, recovery, uh voices, right? So we want we're a voice for those who aren't able to share their voice, however that may be. And so while I'm articulating half decently, I have to say, half decently, uh not everybody can, and not everybody can do artwork, not everybody can do sign language, uh, among all the other kind of voices that we you know we we we can do. One of those is creating music, writing lyrics, writing uh, let's just say if you're in uh you know a guitar, a rock band, so you got your guitar, you may have a guitar or two, uh, a lead singer who may be playing a guitar, uh maybe a bass player, a drummer, maybe some backup singers. Uh that just gives you like the idea of what we're what we're talking about. And we we have a lot of a lot of serious episodes. Uh that's that's for sure. Because life is full of uh sometimes not not the the funnest topics to talk about. But this show is gonna be a little bit little bit uh a little bit funner, I think. Uh, because that's gonna be about it we're gonna be talking about music, and we're gonna be talking about one of my favorite bands over the over the years. Um and it the band, it's one of those things where you have kind of like your, I guess, I don't say like your top bands, your top musicians, artists that you you listen to, or you tend to gravitate towards. Uh, and then there's others that you still like, but for whatever reason, uh you haven't attended a concert, haven't found uh found their music in a while, haven't heard it in a while. Um, and one of the platforms that we do have a uh that our show is on from the podcast, from the audio standpoint, you know, they put on well, a lot of people put on concerts and you know, big shows, big festivals, you know, there's too many to name. But it it's one of those festivals that uh I gotta say uh brought up uh the thought to do an episode on on them. And while this is not all inclusive, I'm gonna try to hit the high points uh with uh with our show. Uh in uh the band is a rock band. So again, they have guitarist, they have a lead singer, uh they have a drummer. Uh in anyways, so I'm talking about Aerosmith, and it also ties in, right? So from the voice standpoint, from the singing and the playing of the music, um young concerts all across the world. I think they've been they've been doing this so long since before I was born, I think. Uh and so not just the music side, but when we talk about you know going through a lot of rough patches, a lot of bands usually do, you know, and know that there's usually a power struggle at some point. Maybe there's some uh you know, some substances and things that come and go and maybe rehab, and uh again, I'm not uh I'm not saying every single band that these things play a role in. Uh, but from what I know, what I've what I've read uh about Aerosmith, that it it seems like it look uh they they literally have let's take all a lot of the elements, you know. So Joe Perry, Lee Guitarists, you know, Steven Tyler, you know, they called them the the toxic twins, you know, as as they were, you know, starting to make it, I guess you could say, sign and deal, record deals, and going on tours and lavish expenses, and you know, you we're not gonna get into all that because there's a lot of uh you know uncensored things that I could really get into. Uh but they were one of the first I don't know if they were they well, they weren't the first concert that I went to. Uh they were one of like the few first few grouping. I like if I don't know if I was a group maybe because I I would go to concerts quite a bit when I was when I was growing up and and and I remember Aerosmith. I I I I I don't even remember how many times I've seen them live play. There's quite a few. Yeah. And so I'll just I'll just get right into it. Is one of the shows I was at is uh an outdoor show, and they aerosmith, they had basically two stages set up. So what we normally see now is the stage being extended one way or the other, or there's some kind of aerial maneuver uh that takes an artist from one area, let's say the main stage, to a second stage or a third stage. And and so I I remember this clearly because I remember doing some research and trying to figure out like where where to go when I got to the venue. So it was an outdoor venue, part of it's covered, so that's like an amphitheater, and I had uh lawn tickets, so the the most inexpensive tickets. Uh so I was on I had lawn tickets and I was doing some research or I heard from I somehow I I came across some information that there was gonna be a second stage set up for Aerosmith when they when they came to the amphitheater that was closest where I lived. And so that in my mind, you know, even at I don't even remember how old I was, 18, 19, 17. I I I don't I don't quite remember um obviously old enough to drive, uh, but I was not consuming any alcohol or anything along those lines. So when I heard about that ahead of time, I automatically began to strategize, like, okay, I'm yeah, I'm gonna be on the lawn, there's gonna be a second stage, they're gonna come out, Aerosmo's gonna come out at some point and play at least a couple songs, I thought. And so when the day arrived, you know, and everybody's lining up at the the gates, you know, ready to, you know, the people with pavilion tickets uh are you know are under the canopy that you know most of theirs, I mean some of theirs tickets are you know pit tickets, so they're kind of like general mission for like a certain space. And I I've been to one or two shows like that. Uh, but anybody who's been to like an amphitheater type of type of concert type of show, it's kind of the same setup on on the lawn. And so people come with their blankets, you know, if it's raining, everybody's got you know their poncho, or if it's supposed to rain, and umbrellas if you're allowed there, you know, there's different rules for you know what you can bring in, what you can't. Yeah, people some people I think could bring in uh you know chairs, and there, you know, there's a whole again, a whole host of things that you could and couldn't bring in. And it was I'll say like an overcast day, uh, so it wasn't raining. And so when I got in, went straight. I could see the as you're kind of going down the hill on the lawn, I could see basically in line with the main stage, which is directly out onto the lawn. I saw this, you know, second stage set up. Obviously, it wasn't as big as the the the main stage, and so I was like, this is it, and so uh that's where I went. I got as close as I could to that second stage, and so for the f there may have been one or probably one or two other bands that were playing ahead of time, usually that depending on how how big the artist is the band is, you know, they they may have you know one, two, three kind of opening bands. And uh some might not, some it just it's the you know the main band, and that's that's that's who you're there to see. Yeah, so I remember getting there, getting if I wasn't I I think I was like first on the fence to the s to the second stage. So I wish uh I would have had a you know, we we have these smart devices, smartphones, and we can video and we can take photos and do so many things so quickly. And uh that's one thing looking back. I wish I had access to that. Um, because as you know the bands started to come out and they would play their set, which means you know, however many minutes they had, some had 20 minutes to play, and I think there might have been one at 30, and maybe another one at like 40, and then it was already for Aerosmith. And so I like you know, I've enjoyed their music, true rock band, um, very little auto-tune if they have that, and I like a wide variety of music, um, but this is like a true like the musician they were playing the instruments, and Steven Tyler, he's singing, and the drum, I mean, everything is as uh as advertised. Uh so as the time got closer, then there started to be more activity, you know, the guitar started to be uh put on uh you know their stands on the second stage, and you can kind of tell uh it was getting you know the time was getting closer, and uh I may have been four, five, six songs that Aerosmith played. I had a hard time seeing because I was I was more set up standing for the second stage. And so I could then the second stage was race up a bit, uh you know, so more people could see. I think they're gonna come out uh and play a few songs, and you know, then you saw, you know, uh I guess the roadies, you know, come and they have the song, the set list, how many what songs they're gonna play when they come out, and you know, they're they're taping them to the to the floor of the second stage, and it was just so exciting. And then lo and behold, then that that moment came, and here they were, and I was maybe fifth ten, fifteen feet if that, and that's that's even with the barrier. Um it's like it's like I'm here and like Steven Tyler's like right there, like and Joe Perry and Joey Kramer and and the rest of the the band. And the one thing that that caught me because you don't know, you I didn't know after watching and seeing music videos once on TV, actually did play music videos, uh and then seeing different award shows. You know, these band members and these artists, they look just so much bigger than life when you see them. They they look so tall. And uh that was a thing I noticed when Steven Tyler came out like at first I was because the stage was pretty I mean compact because they have quite a few members of their band and and they were in a much smaller spot when they were on the second stage and so once they started playing the music and I I wish I I wish I had what I ended up getting to to stay which I'll I'll share here a little bit um but anyway so these are voices right so Joe Perry when he's playing the guitar he's doing the solo on like uh laughing an elevator and crying and you know uh all these ballads you know dream on and I mean it's just incredible I mean you to to hear that I usually songs are you know maybe a couple minutes long I mean there's four five six I'm I think Dream On might have been one of the longest ones and if I don't know if my mind I think my mind I think Dream On was one of the songs that they played on that second stage um try not to give a spoiler uh on on uh what's the comp but so they come out and and they start playing and I'm looking around like for Steven Tyler on the stage because I you know I up until then everything I saw of him in the entire band just everybody looked again larger than life and which I think that's one of the backstrew boys wanted the song they came out with larger than life and then I when I ended up like spotting him I kind of didn't really well I did end up realizing at that point but up until then I was trying to I got I saw like Joe Perry and I was like oh he's actually decently tall and and the others and uh obviously the drummers you know sitting behind the drum kit and when I saw uh Steven Tyler and this is coming from somebody that's five foot eight I'm five foot eight so he was a little bit shorter than what I expected I guess is what I'm trying to to to get at but every ounce of energy the sound uh was just as advertised you know when he has his uh his spots in certain songs where he just takes it above the notch you think that a singer can take it and really it's just that's one of his signature things and um that he's just an incredible incredible artist incredible singer um and the and and obviously back then versus you know now you know they were much younger I mean moving around on stage I mean it was just incredible uh so that was like one of the one of the funnest shows that I went to because I I was able to be that close to the artist uh because usually when you're in the when you're in the lawn in an amphitheater setting I mean you're well off of where even like the pavilion seats start and then you have you know sometimes you have a general mission or they call like the the the pit area where it's general mission and people are moving around sometimes they get in the mosh bit and you know people get thrown around and that um yeah while while songs you're playing uh but that was one of the one of the funnest and one of the coolest because it was something I never saw before and I realize now over the years it's one of the closest I've ever been to I don't say like a rock star um and and so the reason why I said I think dream on was one of the songs they played was so after the after the show was over the roadies are basically tearing down the stage right because they got another city to go to you know maybe the next day or the the day after you know in a couple days and so they're you know they got to get everything loaded on trucks and and and headed out to the next destination and well there there were set lists with the songs that the aerosmith was playing on that second stage and I got one you know so like I because I was so close like I was like if they you know untape the set one of the scent lists because there's multiple ones for the different members of the the band uh it's like I'm gonna try to get one of those and I did you asked me where it is today I have no idea I have no idea where it's at and that I don't know if that would be a keepsake I mean I think it I mean for me it would be a keepsake for sure. I mean whether it's worth any money I don't know and I wouldn't I don't really care if it was just one of those things that it was it was kind of like a scrapbook type of deal where you know you're you're paging through like some you know positive moments and that was definitely one of them and to this day I don't know where it's at maybe maybe one day I'll I'll recover it but for some reason I think dream on was one of the the the songs on there because there was there were other ones uh I think it was doesn't matter fact of the matter is Steven Tyler with his voice and his vocals whether you like them whether you don't like them whether you like Aerosmith you don't like them they share their voice through music Steven Tyler through singing and he plays harmonica on crying and maybe a couple other other songs uh Joe Perry just an insanely good guitar player I mean the solos and I I've never seen um you know guns and roses and slash play like uh his solo on November rain and and that but that would be really and probably Prince I mean Prince has passed on uh but as I'm just as I'm thinking yeah these are you know they called them like the arena rock bands you know back in the you know because they would go and they would just pack arenas and the very first time I saw aerosmith was in an arena in a nearby local city uh I yeah we can get into how it sounded i i there was a lot of reverberation and a lot of echo and it wasn't my most favorite aerosmith it was actually two two uh the aerosmith concerts so I've been through quite a few uh the first one when you know it was indoors and the echo like it I I don't know if like the sound engineer or it just didn't sound like I thought it was gonna sound and I I was hoping it was gonna sound like the at the day or at the time you know like the CD um that's just I guess um whatever my expectation and and there's so many other variables when they're playing live uh so there was that one and then there was another con another aerosmith concert that was actually at the same pavilion the same amphitheater uh where the one with the second stage and the the set list that I got a copy of and uh you know I'm holding on to your life you know for the rest of the show because you know people are just grabbing right it's it's a souvenir and there's not very many of them especially out on the lawn um so uh that second one that I wasn't a huge fan was one where you know NFL football was kicking off so like the first first game of the season was on third I think Thursday and the concert was on a Wednesday and the only reason why I remember this is because of how upset I was uh other lawn I had lawn seats or there are really seats unless you like sit on the ground but when the band or the artist comes out like you you pretty much have to be standing to at least even see the screens that are up if if if they bring screens with them uh anyways so the football kickoff and I knew that Aerosmith was gonna be playing before the the game started so they were gonna have like a like a tailgate mini concert where they're gonna play like two or three songs and so the day before having the show I I guess I had an in and I had some intuition that the show wasn't gonna be as good and and I mean so I mean that kind of in two ways. Sometimes right with the different bands like bands that have been around a long time they have a lot of songs that they've written and played you know over 40 years 45 years or so I mean there's a lot of songs right there's the popular ones where you know for Aerosmith you know there's I don't want to miss a thing you know from you know from the movie Armageddon there's crying there's dream on love an elevator there's one of the first crossovers with Ron DMC in Walk This Way uh Jude Looks Like a Lady which through the reading uh that I've done over the years on the band that song was written about one of one of Steven's near death experiences with uh his one of his I guess dealers that he was buying illegal substances from uh so I was so there's that so there's the you know you go to the show and you're expecting at least for me I'm expecting to hear like the best songs like and even if I've heard them at like 10 other concerts I don't care I want to hear them again and so that show be the day before the the kickoff NFL kickoff show that they were going to be doing I knew that there'd be the short I knew the concert would be at least a little bit shorter because they were going to have to directly go straight to the site where where the where they were going to be playing and depending on what songs they were going to play Steven Tyler has a pretty wide range of vocals and I thought he might be saving because that was going to be a bigger audience what I mean by that not just the people that that were there at the kickoff the NFL kickoff you know like I'm calling it like the tailgate kickoff show it was like two or three songs and and so I was I was upset because what ended up happening was the show was not they didn't play a lot of the hits for the time that they were there and the show was I mean barely an hour if I remember correctly and this is at a time where they still had a as and as they do today a huge catalog of songs and there were some hits that they didn't play I can't remember exactly which ones they didn't play uh but I just remember being so upset I mean I did I did I pay for a lawn ticket I guess I'd be more upset if I had I didn't have the money at the time but if I would have had the money and I would have paid for a pavilion ticket I would have been just as upset I've been up more because I would have paid more money and so they played a shorter set and the songs uh were I I felt they were poorly just but that's just me giving my opinion uh then oh and so the audience right so the audience the next day wasn't just the audience the of the attendees you know in the the the the tailgate uh the tailgate lot where they were where Aerosmith was playing before the first game of the season started uh but there was a TV audience so right you're adding millions of millions of people that are in the count comfort of their own home or apartment or wherever you know the they're uh they're watching it from and so that vastly outweighed the amount of people that were at the concert the day before uh so i i was upset about that so those are like the two ones um the two shows of theirs that i've been to over the years that i mean it's a business so they realized that that that one that that show that um was the day before the nfl kickoff show they were gonna be doing they realized they were gonna have many millions of eyes on them and ears uh not just the you know 10 000 or how however many with the capacity of the amphitheater where they were playing uh but it doesn't take away from their artistic ability and and the way the songs that they did play uh it was almost kind of like because Joe Perry and the band are so good the songs that they did play even though they might not have been my favorite I was hoping that they wouldn't cut the solos short so they would play songs that I I wanted but again it's not about me it's not about me and and so that's what I'm I've learned over the the the years uh and so the last time I saw them it was probably hands down probably like one of the even even with the second stage uh one of the coolest things so the the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the United States uh they did they yeah they go uh undergo different changes and and and upgrades you know every year and a few years prior to this time that I'm going to be referring to uh there was a huge refurbishment going on at where the uh NFL Hall of Fame game takes place in Canton Ohio and one of the things that the the staff started to do was bring in usually a pretty big name or names of bands to come in and play the concert or two around the time of you know the enshrinement of the you know the the the new class of you know the people that are going to be enshrined into NFL Hall of Fame that weekend and the one year it was Aerosmith and I was I I just couldn't believe it because I'm I I'm not gonna go into part of part of it because uh i'm a i'm still a believer in the the the city and some things are going well some things are you know there's a there's a water park that was supposed to be built you know a year or two ago and it's you know they have this these ideas of things to do but anyways every year i i i don't even i don't even know that the actual year it was but whatever year it was i definitely got tickets and my now wife and my brother in law and my sister and so the four of us we we got tickets to go to the show and it was like aerosmith literally playing in our pretty close to our backyard uh and so we got tickets and it was and I had been I and I had been to a lot of concerts a lot of shows you know big venues small venues uh big bands you know bands on the you know the uptick and still to this day we didn't have we were probably I don't know maybe halfway three quarters of the way back on the the floor which was basically the field you know they had the tarp and you know they had covering over top of that um but that show was it was awesome because the number one the proximity number two who I got to go with you and my wife um brother-in-law my sister uh number three as I refer back to when Aerosmith didn't play all the song the songs they played a full set and they brought out every every hit I mean I think up until that time and then I mean I'm talking the probably the 2010s yeah it had to be you know the 2010s and so you know each year it seemed like you know that Aerosmith was building you know to their catalog but up until then I had seen Aerosmith I mean I want to say 10 times but of all the times that I saw them even with that second stage I guess I didn't remember them playing so many of their hits and playing so long of a show where let's just take I don't want to miss a thing from the Armageddon soundtrack who Steven Tyler's daughter Liv is in the music video and I believe she's also in the movie she's not in the movie she's definitely in in the the result I remember is because it's a Tyler like Liv Tyler Steven Tyler that's how I'm connecting that in my mind I mean there may have been again I'm talking I I had seen Aerosmith a lot in that night at the NFL Professional Hall of Fame they call it I think the Concert for Legends now they Aerosmith up until then they may have played I don't want to miss a thing maybe two times and so that's over a lot of concerts and a lot of years and that was always one of those songs that I wanted to hear you know some some may say well it was it was from a movie so you know yeah they wrote it but it was for a movie and so it it may or may not belong in their full repertoire of hits but I go back to the the concert where they cut short the they didn't play I don't want to miss a thing there but I think they played it the next day and I because obviously I was why I watched and and I think I think they played it that that you know that football pregame show that they put on and boy was I upset and boy was I mad but when they played it at that concert for legends you know with the people I was with and again the the length of the show all the hits yeah they uh they added uh Joe Perry he's also a great singer as well and so he he has his catalog of songs and so it's really kind of cool because every show I've been at usually except maybe maybe the one where they cut short Steven Tyler you're basically kind of just gives gives Joe the mic and and lets Joe play his you know a few of his songs and uh so I find that you know a neat thing you know that he he can or that he does but as I think about the people that have told me over the years and the different comments and you know different blogs and different articles that I've read over the years about I don't want to miss a thing being a movie song and uh and I go okay but I've also seen Rascal Flats a few times and there's a movie called Cars uh that song like I want to ride it all night long uh they play that song every single every single show um that I saw since the movie was was out I I'm pretty sure all the times I saw them the move at least the first one was out I think but that's the kind of defense I I I posed to anybody that's like well with Arrow Smith you know that and the Armageddon song that you know that that really you know is should should only be played in certain circumstances you know if like the you know the songs from a certain movie are being played and and and I come back with that and say okay well I think and again these are this show is much different than other ones we've had so I this is obviously a a way a way lighter of a show uh so this should also show you that we're able to talk and share in these ways too and it still relates to voices for voices because they're playing music they're singing using their voice Joe Perry most of the time he's using his guitar as his voice how he's expressing himself uh Joey Kramer the drummer he's using the drum kit as his voice because he doesn't he doesn't sing much if at all maybe a song or two maybe mama can uh but this all ties in the voices for voices and and it took me seeing a uh an older uh aerosmith show recently say um let's do a show on it let's talk about it because there's again there's a lot of intricacy intricacies in in it and the other cool thing about when aerosmith kind of came to the area was so anybody knows what a writer is when it comes to like musicians and bands and artists and basically what it is it's it's a set of things a a band or an artist wants prior to a show so they're coming to town if a band's coming to town you know they're gonna depending on when they get there and they'll have listed what what kind of food they want what kind of beverages they want how many I've seen writers where an artist has requested only blue MMs or and so there's these lists and for each of the shows usually you know that get some of them used to get posted I don't know if if people still post them anymore now that we're in the digital age probably not uh but I don't know I can't I can't say for sure uh but in the aerosmith example the other part that made it really resonate with me was the rider that they had for the show at the Pro Football Hall of Fame the Concert for Legends they're playing one of the one of the things that they asked for in their riders are suggestions and I think menus for three local restaurants so now you know a national chain nothing against national chains uh but they they have a lot of a lot more ways to drum up business than you know mom and pop shop and I didn't know it until after the fact but where I ended up getting engaged with my now wife and one of the favorite places that I ever since my parents took me there whenever it was for the first time and then as I started to grow up and then ended up getting engaged there and having a relationship with you know the owner and then now it's been passed down to son and wife and uh their business their their restaurant was one of the restaurants that Aerosmith picked uh for food for the band and the crew uh and so I thought I was like honestly after the fact found out about it and I thought it was just so cool so neat that again I wasn't there when they handed the food out I didn't get any a picture or an autograph I didn't get any of that but it was just cool to just to know that that that's something that I may maybe other bands do that too I I don't know um but that really kind of let's say they put a cherry on top from uh like an all-round they played a the the show was awesome they played all the songs they played I don't want to miss a thing uh of course uh yeah and then obviously I said who I who I was at the show with it was cool I think it may have been one of the only ones that the four of us were at well maybe we're at another one I'm not membering I mean there's been like local local bands over the years I think we may have seen a time or two but uh nothing on on this scale and it was just it was so fun and and so I thought I would incorporate Aerosmith they're still one of my favorite bands and I haven't probably heard of them heard them play in years and then I come across them probably with some of the other bands and and concerts that I have you know watched over the years or over the year or two you know with the different TV streaming services do we have and so it was it it's just so neat and then to see how again this weaves right in the voices for voices and that you know on that stage on the main stage each member of the band you know has their their roles to play and some cross over like they said where Joe sang Joe Perry sings some and Steven takes a little bit of a rest um yeah I I think it's been a little bit of a longer show than yeah it's been an hour show wasn't didn't know how long it was going to go and I could definitely go into more more detail maybe on an on another episode we can we can do that I just thought it was a good spot because sometimes we we hear different feedback you know if I decide to try to sing which again I'm not a singer by trade and I'm not a great singer in general uh sometimes the songs I pick that I do decide to post for whatever reason have the in a different uh a different intent not what I intend uh like when I when I do it I do it because it's a song from a band that I watch and or listen to or both and sometimes the songs are happy sometimes they're not as happy but it doesn't doesn't mean that I'm not happy so we want to thank our new viewers our new listeners please subscribe to the voices for voices TV show and podcast give us the big thumbs up like follow subscribe share reach out to 25 or 50 of your your closest uh friends family members colleagues let them know about the voices for voices tv show and podcast uh have them tune in again we're over 400 episodes strong in fact i think this is either gonna be 405 or I think 400 and episode 406 and we're uh yeah we're we're just doing it we're doing the best we can and we just are hoping to help people however we can sometimes again 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Uh we we have a pretty pretty good feeling uh because it it's happened to a lot of people. So uh thank you for joining us on this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast. I'm Justin Alan Hayes I've been your host and just so grateful to have you with us. And until next time let's celebrate the voices of everybody. Everybody celebrates their voice in a different way as we uh illustrated and symbolized uh tonight uh when we're filming this and we just want to say please be a voice for you or somebody in need and we we love you and hope you're having a happy healthy and prosperous new year and we'll see you on a following uh episode of the show or an earlier episode of the show so take care everybody.