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Why Intercepting Fentanyl Boats Protects Our Communities | Episode 372

Founder of Voices for Voices®, Justin Alan Hayes Season 4 Episode 372

Why Intercepting Fentanyl Boats Protects Our Communities | Episode 372

What if one small boat could decide the fate of an entire community? We open our hearts to a global audience and then face a hard truth: fentanyl and its analogs are slipping into everyday life, often hidden in familiar substances and amplified by cutting practices that turn routine use into a fatal gamble. Our conversation moves from survivor courage and cultural responsibility to the urgent ethics of stopping lethal drugs at sea, especially in the Caribbean corridors that move faster than public awareness.

We share why valuing life means holding difficult tensions. Interdictions are wrenching, but shipments can carry enough to kill tens of thousands. We walk through the signals that raise alarms—like speedboats stacked with four or five engines—and explain how intelligence, supply routes, and overdose data inform real-time decisions. At the same time, we champion compassion: harm reduction, Narcan access, test strips where legal, and treatment on demand. People need time to choose recovery, and that requires reducing the deadliest supply while keeping shame out of the conversation.

Beyond policy and headlines, we double down on culture. We call out media that normalizes exploitation and invest in clean publishing that elevates dignity through global folklore and myth, now spanning nearly a hundred countries. Stories shape what communities tolerate and protect, which is why we spotlight a two-part conversation with a trafficking survivor whose voice reframes strength, healing, and hope. Join us, share this episode, and help build a world where fewer families mourn preventable losses and more people make it to recovery. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell a friend—who needs to hear this today?


Chapter Markers

0:00 Welcome And Global Community

2:23 Catalog Highlights And Watch Parties

2:46 New Episodes And Sensitive Topics

4:16 Exposing Harmful Content In Media

6:15 Clean Publishing And Global Folklore

8:16 Impact Goals And Audience Growth

8:54 Subscribe And Support Request

9:08 Valuing Life Amid Tough Issues

9:24 Fentanyl Smuggling In Caribbean Waters

10:34 Why Interdictions Happen

11:17 The Stakes: Lives Versus Shipments

12:31 Cutting Drugs And Overdose Risk

13:41 Red Flags On Smuggling Boats

15:03 Prayer, Compassion, And Prevention

16:02 Protecting Youth From Hidden Poisons

17:44 The Bait‑And‑Switch Analogy

19:11 Balancing Ethics And Public Safety

21:03 Reducing Supply To Save Lives

22:11 Hope For Recovery And Support

26:59 Closing Thanks And How To Share

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Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices:

Hey everyone, it's Justin here Voices for Voices. Thank you so much for joining us, whether you're watching or listening, whether you're here in the United States or whether you are uh in a different country, territory, province across the world. Uh, we love each and every one of you, and uh we pray nothing but success and a prosperous life for you and whatever that looks like for you. Uh we are now uh well over 370 episodes in our catalog. Uh, we recommend taking a look uh through that catalog. We have a lot of fantastic guest topics that uh will uh make you very interested. And uh we uh we're we're being made aware of. I mentioned a few episodes ago, we actually did a full episode on this, that um there's actually uh there's coaches, there are uh people all across the United States and across the world for that matter, that are uh having watch parties, coaches are pumping in the Voices for Voices TV shown podcast into the weight rooms uh to help uh get that extra knowledge and uh hear inspiration and people that have uh gone through real life uh mental challenges, uh human trafficking, uh, abuse, trauma, you name it, and it really pumps up uh the soul to a whole new level with the weights being the physical, uh, and we have the mental side of uh side of things where we get stronger and stronger once we uh continue to hear and listen and take in uh such positive inspirational stories and events. And we just uh we just want to thank each and every one of you. Um I just finished up uh one of uh one of uh many episodes, and uh just wanted to uh let you know that that now is available, which is episode 371, which is part two of our conversation with uh sexual abuse trafficking, uh, survivor Catherine Davi. Uh part one, you can find in episode uh 368. Um in episode 367, uh we have an episode where uh it can't be stressed how uh to the common person uh lyrics in the back of a book, Masters and Slayers, by author Brian Davis. Uh the there was some sort of sick contest that we believe happened where uh uh there was a song that Brian Davis wrote in the back of his book, Masters and Slayers, and had some kind of uh some kind of contest, and we uh we really expose individuals who really look like miners, uh, children not of age, um in their singing in the woods about mutilates, penetrates, uh just sickening words uh for anybody but that have children, what we believe to be children, and videos 15 plus years ago. And these videos are still out on YouTube. So these are public videos, these aren't things that we produced that we put together, which I I know that you know Brian and uh others uh are you know are gonna are trying to portray. Uh we have no reason to do that. Uh, and you have no reason to do this either, but you did. You put it in your book, you had children singing a song uh that is absolutely grotesque to anybody that looks at those lyrics, and not only did you post the lyrics in that print book at the end, you actually put the chord progression, and so we do see in one of our uh we'll call it a uh children performances with flute and uh piano and singing of this song, and uh we are just appalled and as a public safety announcement. We don't want any other children, any other adults, we don't want anybody, no matter where they're at, no matter what their belief system is, we don't want anybody to have to go through that and live through that kind of trauma. Uh, voices for voices publishing is the clean alternative. We're setting the standard, we're resetting the standard for Christian publishing, uh, Christian fantasy publishing, mythical creatures around the world. We have 97,000, uh, might even be up to 98,000 at this point. Uh, we uh, under the uh the direction of David Solomon, um, put together uh myths, folklores uh for uh countries, provinces, cities all across the world uh that uh we are uh pleased to be able to do because there are people that live in all the corners of the world and we believe that they should be represented. And so you will see in one of our most recent posts uh on uh from North Korea folklore, that uh it really is just incredible. So we just want to thank the thank uh everyone in North Korea for uh being on board, uh, for giving us the uh the okay to be able to uh publish that uh under uh under your guidance. So thank you for that. Uh today we are uh at I believe we're at 98 countries, provinces across the world, close to a thousand cities. When I say close, I mean less than less than 10. Uh and that's a pretty huge feat for anybody to uh be close to because we do have we do have the overarching goal of wanting to and uh well on our way to help three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond. And in fact, we're not only gonna breach that, we're gonna we're gonna surpass that. So you are watching one of the top TV shows and podcasts across the world. And uh please let your friends or family or colleagues share this. Uh, if you could do us a big favor, smash that subscribe button, give us the big thumbs up, like, follow, share. All those good things are free to do. And that helps us on our journey and helps you be a part of our our journey to help as many people as possible, no matter how small or how large, uh, we we are uh ecstatic to be in this position to be able to do what we do. Um and so thank you. Thank you to each and every one of you. Uh God bless you, God bless the United States of America, God bless you all across the world. And if you're not a believer or you believe in another uh religion, or you aren't a believer, that's okay too. We love you all. Uh you all uh the the same. So we're gonna touch on an area that is also controversial uh on on this particular show. We think that again, that that all life is precious. And what what we're seeing and have seen the past couple of months are uh a uptick in individuals who are trying to smuggle um fentanyl and and other uh precursors to fentanyl and other drugs to uh the country that we live in, the United States of America, coming from a lot of different places. Um, and so what we're gonna be talking about is mostly through the waters in the Caribbean. And sometimes we're being shown uh on the news uh what looks to be harmless boats, speed boats that are just operating, what looks to be normal and international waters. And what we've been seeing is the unclassified versions of these boats being uh destroyed uh by missiles, uh, other kinetic uh ways to to disarm. And so when we talk about we value all life, one of the boats by itself had enough fentanyl to kill, I think it was at least 20,000 Americans, 20,000 human beings. And so we look at it as yes, it is very unfortunate that there are loss of lives in these strikes. Uh, but in good faith, from what we know, uh we bel we believe that there are uh substances, like I mentioned, on these boats. And if those are the case, we don't want any of our fellow uh brothers and sisters anymore to die. Uh and people say, oh, well, there's a demand for fentanyl, and so continue thinking like that if you want, but then there's others who are using potentially abusing drugs, narcotics, who are using as they normally would. And again, we're not we're not any stretch condoning using narcotics, illegal drugs. However, if an individual is in that space and is working through recovery, or even if they haven't reached that point yet, if they use what whatever narcotics that they have been using for a period of time, and some of this fentanyl and these other precursors of fentanyl and carfentanol and uh xylosine, which is you know fentanyl, uh thousands of times stronger, and fentanyl is hundreds of times stronger than heroin. If uh, you know, just to give a little bit of a little bit of a history lesson, that's about as much as I know about it. And I'm coming and we're coming from the side that we don't want anybody, we want people to die. Uh we know that someday is gonna be our time, and we can't help that, but if we're able to help saving lives, if a strike on a boat, a boat that actually is carrying fentanyl or other uh illicit narcotics and drugs, uh as much as that we can we can destroy uh the better. I'm not talking about the lost life, I'm talking about the actual drugs themselves or the precursors to that. Uh that's what I'm that's what I'm talking about, is uh if they make if if these boats make it to their destination uh and get spread across the United States, that there's a good possibility, again, that up to 20,000 per boat uh could have uh overdose amounts of these drugs and in what uh these individuals are taking. So while we don't agree with you know the loss of life, I don't think anybody does. Uh I think that we we can all come to agree to some extent, right? We don't we don't want our sons and daughters to be uh growing up in high school and in college, and for whatever reason they experiment and they experiment thinking that they're taking one thing and have that one thing uh include another ingredient and have that other ingredient be something that overpowers their system and and they pass away that's when we that's when we have a uh that's when we have an issue of talking about these substances and so again you would have a student experimenting and I I can only speak for myself uh not one of us is sinless, no matter I know there's a there's a few of our listeners and our viewers who believe they are, but you're not. Uh so you can keep believing that, but you're not. Um and so we've we've all made mistakes, we've all to certain degrees make it made mistakes. And so when there are children, even adults uh experimenting and having what they're experimenting with include a deadly dose of uh another drug that they cut into it, so they can take that uh let's say one ton of drugs, then they can turn it into two tons. And what's that what does that do? That means that the people selling make more money because if you're now if you now have two to sell instead of one, you make more money when you have two. So that's when you wear hear the words uh that substances are cut with baking soda or uh whatever they're they're cut with. That's so they're able to make whatever supply of whatever that is that they have, uh they're able to make that more so they can make more money. And so when we see these boats, we hear that these boats are uh taken out. We see the engines, you know, you have four or five engines on the back of a boat that historically from what I've seen would have one, maybe two. Uh but when you have three, four, or five engines, what what would be the point in needing that many engines for a boat that would run plenty uh plenty of speed? Uh and so we we look at things like that and there's intelligence, and yes, we're putting some trust uh that there's intelligence, but when you look at a boat again just on on the surface and those photos and those videos, and you look at the back and you see uh how many engines are there, you don't need five and uh engines, you don't need four engines when one would when one would be sufficient. Uh so we want we want to pray for everybody who has gone to heaven, everybody who is on earth and is to come, and we pray that uh people making these illicit substances who are making the decisions to climb in these boats and and and make uh what could be considered a kamikaze trip, where they may have a a good well, not a good feeling, have a bad feeling that uh that their boat may be the next one that uh gets uh gets bombed. And again, we're not condoning the loss of life at all. We're talking about the substances and what's on there, because what's on the boats is what's killing Americans, and not just Americans, also Europeans, also individuals in in South America, individuals all across the world, and we don't want that, we want less of that. We want more people thriving, more people surviving, people that are able to stop if they want to stop, or if for some reason they're not able to stop, that they don't have to have as much concern that what they are taking is uh included with uh very deadly uh drugs uh that individuals may have no idea that that's included. An individual buying buying one thing and and have it be, you know, the bait and switch, and then have it be some something else. Like, hey, come by this brand new car, has 35 miles. Here's the engine, here's here's the paint job, here's interior, here, here's everything. Oh, I got that new car smell. Um find out that as soon as you start the car that it explodes. That's an extreme example, but that's taking a life, and we don't we don't we don't condone that at all on any stretch, and so that's why we thought it was uh appropriate for us to have this episode to put this out, uh, so you can hear our thoughts about that because it is a current event and continues to be a current event, that uh the people are talking about hotbed issues that are are are being talked about. Um, we talk about trauma, we talk about recovery. Uh, we we want people to have that opportunity, and if an individual has made up their mind that, okay, this after I do this, this is it. I am done, I am finished, only to take what they take and have a thick cut with fentanyl, carfentanol, xylosine, and a few short minutes later their heart stops. That's what we're talking about, folks. This is what we're talking about. We're talking about life, and so when we talk about respect of life, uh, we want everybody to have the same uh opportunities, but we do have free will to make the decisions that we want to make, given the information, and so when these boats are coming across international waters and there's a good bit of intelligence, and we see again just for somebody like me, I see four or five engines on the back of a speedboat. We're not talking about uh we're not talking about a cruise ship, you know, that carries, you know, two, three, four thousand people. Uh we're talking about a speedboat that I don't know could carry three or four people. Uh do they really need four or five engines if if they're just going out fishing? Why why would you why would you need four or five engines? And so that right there is to me a sign that something's up and so if you couple that with uh intelligence of what gets loaded onto those boats, and the shipping lanes that historically and currently are being used to uh to to ship uh substances. Uh we're not condoning the loss of life, but if we're able to save 20,000 Americans, 20,000 Brazilians, 20,000 Italians, uh, 20,000 of individuals that in your country, in your territory, in your province, in your city, I think that's a pretty good, pretty good thing. And so we we hope that there's less of these uh incidents, uh, but we first need to stop the inflow of these particular substances so that two, three, four, five, six individuals that climb aboard thinking they're gonna have a payday only to have a missile uh watch them and destroy them. Uh, we don't we don't want that loss of life. We want those individuals to have other opportunities to survive and and thrive, just like the people who are right now, unfortunately, uh using uh illicit substances. We want those individuals to be able to survive and thrive, to be able to recover, uh, to be able to be able to finally say, I've had it, I've had enough, I'm finished, I'm gonna go into rehab, I'm gonna go and get the help that I need. I need to stop living like this. And when we have more and more boats coming with substances that can kill you know upwards of 20,000 just on a single shipment on one of these speedboats, uh, that impedes the ability uh to have that opportunity to survive and thrive. So we love you all. We're here for you all. Give us a big thumbs up, smash that subscribe button, like, follow, share, let everybody know about the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast. We are the hottest TV show and podcast out there across the world, and we thank you so much for your love and support. We're going strong. Uh, we uh love to uh to help. If you'd like to share your story and you believe you can inspire some people with us, let us know. We'd love to have you with us, okay? So until next time, this is Justin Alan Hayes signing off, um, Voices for Voices, and we'll see you next time.