We Urge Abusers To Confess And Let Survivors Heal | Episode 370

We Urge Abusers To Confess And Let Survivors Heal | Episode 370

Some stories shake you awake. We open the door to hard truths about grooming, coercion, and abuse, and we refuse to look away when backlash tries to drown out survivor voices. Our focus is simple: protect people, tell the truth, and push for real accountability that leads to healing.

We talk through recent survivor accounts and the psychological toll of grooming—how it warps thinking, isolates victims, and lingers for years. We push back on claims that free speech is a shield for harmful conduct, reminding listeners that survivors’ testimony is speech too. We also examine the risks of sexualized or violent content in youth spaces, where “creative” activities can mask pressure and exploitation. When adults author, promote, or normalize this, they are not spectators; they are responsible. Naming the specifics matters, because clarity is a form of protection.

This conversation also widens to community trauma, including cases from Kentucky that reveal how abuse spreads through networks and institutions. Our stance is direct: if you have harmed others, stop and confess to an unbiased law enforcement agency. That’s how investigations start and how survivors begin to heal. We keep our space safe and non‑gotcha so survivors can speak freely, set their own pace, and be believed. None of us are perfect, but imperfection is no excuse for exploiting someone’s body, trust, or consent.

If you value a world where survivors are heard and predators lose their cover, add your voice. Subscribe, share this episode with someone who needs it, and leave a review to help more people find these conversations. Your support spreads protection, clarity, and hope.

Chapter Markers

0:02 Welcome And Mission Reset

1:45 Recent Stories Of Grooming And Abuse

4:26 Addressing Backlash And Calling Out Abusers

8:55 First Amendment, Speech, And Responsibility

12:20 Harmful Content In Youth Spaces

16:20 Kentucky Cases And Community Trauma

19:10 Plea For Confession And Justice

22:20 Centering Survivors And Safe Space

28:00 Global Support And Closing Call

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Chapters

• 0:02 Welcome And Mission Reset
• 1:45 Recent Stories Of Grooming And Abuse
• 4:26 Addressing Backlash And Calling Out Abusers
• 8:55 First Amendment, Speech, And Responsibility
• 12:20 Harmful Content In Youth Spaces
• 16:20 Kentucky Cases And Community Trauma
• 19:10 Plea For Confession And Justice
• 22:20 Centering Survivors And Safe Space
• 28:00 Global Support And Closing Call

Transcript

Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: 0:02

Hey everyone, it's Justin of Voices for Voices. Thank you so much for joining us. Whether you're watching or listening, whether you're here in the United States or you are in one of those uh uh additional countries, provinces, territories that are outside the United States, or just about at a hundred different countries, provinces, territories outside of uh the United States of America. So thank you for joining us, uh, whether you're watching or listening, and for spending time uh out of your day with with us, if this is your first episode, or this is uh your uh 300 and I believe this is 370, episode 370. So if you've been with us from the beginning, thank you. Welcome and welcome if this is your first episode. If this is your first episode, uh as I mentioned, we have uh over uh well this is episode 370, so we have a quite a vast catalog of shows of guests of topics, uh some in studio, some out of studio, uh, some uh remote uh on location, and we're just uh pleased uh and glad to be able to uh bring these shows to you uh for for anyone. If this is your first or even following along, uh we've had uh quite a few shows as of late that uh really highlight how us as human beings can can do better, to be better, to treat others better, to not take advantage of people. We're talking about whether that's an adult taking advantage of another adult or an adult taking advantage of a minor, like in our show uh with uh with Katherine that we did. Um it's really heartbreaking to hear how she was taken advantage of and and and is still battling trauma and after effects of the grooming and the abuse that she she suffered. Um, but she is a brave person, inspiring person to come and share with the world uh what she's been through to help not only herself but others, and it's it's just really incredible that someone can can do that because when people are groomed their thought process, it's almost like they're brainwashed into doing certain things or to think a certain way or certain ways, and not all those are good, not everybody in the world is bad by any stretch, but there are uh some bad uh individuals that have taken advantage not only of Catherine, so many others, and we realize there's there's backlash to that, and I'd like to address that at this at this time. If you have are or and or thinking about taking advantage, abusing another individual, we believe in the rule of law, and while I am not an attorney, the things that Catherine was sharing at that most intimate deep level, nobody should have to endure, and so not only Catherine, but others, so many others, uh David Solomon to name to name another individual, and if that gets you all worked up, gets you all heated, you know. I can't believe that these people are coming on and they're talking and they're sharing their stories and their experiences. What I'd like to say to all of you that feel that way, and if you are someone that is an abuser, is taking advantage, that has taken advantage, we number one, we pray for you. We pray for uh our survivors healing. We also pray for the abuser, the individuals, the healing. You can realize the pain, the trauma that you have caused. Not just David and Catherine, hundreds, thousands. I don't know what the number is. There's a lot, there's a lot I don't know. But right there, there's two people that were impacted by some very nasty, very nasty behavior by individuals. And we've heard that it's you know made people upset, and so again, to address that, then just stop. Stop what you're doing if it bothers you that much, there's people that strong. There's probably a lot of other individuals that I don't know. I I haven't been, we haven't been contacted, uh, not not sure uh what the future holds by any stretch. But again, what I would say to you, if that bothers you, this bothers you seeing and hearing a victim or survivor who's stepping out of the shadows and saying, This is what happened to me. This is the person or persons, this is how I feel, how I felt, my injuries, these are the calls that were made behind my back to my doctors. Just stop. What you're doing if you're able to. I don't know if you've been doing this for many years. I I don't I don't know what's possible. I I know the human body is resilient, so I I would like to think that it's possible that you can stop what you're doing, and it's not it doesn't end there. That's the that's the first thing to do, and then the second is to go down to the law enforcement, whether there's individuals that you know, that there's friends or family in the law enforcement, that you go to an unbiased law enforcement agency, and you share all of the crimes, all of the the bad behavior that you have had towards others. Because then and only then will real investigation investigations happen, and only then can some form of justice be had for survivors, so that's what you can do, and if you don't want to do that, if you want to continue doing what you're doing, and you get upset when uh a survivor speaks out and shares their story, that's on you, that's not on anybody else, that's on you. You can get upset about the survivor coming on and sharing their story and their experiences and their trauma, but the only reason why they feel a need to share is because of how they've been treated. If there's no trauma, individuals probably won't be as uh as forthcoming with the information because there really wouldn't be anything to come forward and talk about, except the positive and the great things that they're doing, how they're helping people, and so that happens no matter what, but they wouldn't be sharing or inclined to share such uh such trauma, the grooming, the uh unthinkable acts and words and songs that are sung by minors with the words mutilates, penetrates. We saw episode was that 367 with what we believe in our in good faith that those are minors under 18, and they were singing a song, a song that is in the back of a book written by Brian Davis, the author, who just changed his email address. Oh, by the way, and so in the back of Masters and Slayers, there is a song, Cassi Bree's song, and there's chords, and so we saw and we heard minors, children, what what I would consider children singing in the woods, saw uh a boy child, a girl child, and two girl children, and the two girl children, one was playing the flute, one was playing the piano, they were singing, and the other two, the boy child and the girl child in the woods, they were singing that song. It's a sick song, very so we talk about how children shouldn't be exposed to that for some contest, was it? It's in the book. We didn't write the book, those children didn't write the book. Brian Davis wrote the book, his name's on there as the author, and so you can get upset, you can get you get upset all you want, Mr. Davis. But you you decided to put it in your book. So the fact that 15 years later, still to this day, that we were able to locate that. This isn't something that happened a day ago or a month ago. We're talking fifteen years ago, these recordings, and we we only we only had time to play three of them. There's more than three that are out there, and to put that in front of a child who is so innocent, just learning about the world, want to play with their friends. We don't know if there were any other adults that were complicit. We don't know. We just know what we saw and what we heard. And so again, we're praying for survivors, the non-survivors, those that haven't been able to share their voice, those that have been able to share their voice. We pray for people taking advantage of children or adults or anybody, hypnotize, mesmerize, whatever techniques are being done, have been done, are being done. So I don't want to hear it. Oh, some somebody's upset. Well, good. You should be upset. If you are a Christian, you should be confessing your sins, you should be turning yourself into law enforcement, sharing every single crime, every single thing that you did, where you took advantage of somebody, adult, a minor, and only then can the little form of healing on the survivors start in that in that area. So we understand there's people are gonna be upset, but here's the deal: we're here for the world, we're not here for ourselves. We're here for the world, we're here for God, and I'm not a perfect person, nobody is, nobody's claiming to be. I talk about my faults all the time, and so my faults, me sharing, guest sharing, it's all covered under the first amendment. If like somebody had mentioned that, oh well, you know, the children singing that's covered under the first amendment, and the people that are asking them, forcing them to sing, uh, you know, that's all covered under the first amendment. But what I say isn't covered, hmm. What our guests say isn't covered. I don't know what constitution you're looking at. But a constitution and the first amendment of free speech that I'm seeing just because it's inconvenient to you. So be it. Justin Timberlake says, cry me a river. We're here to help others. No matter what, no matter what we've done or failed to do. We're here to help others. And that means calling people out, calling individuals out, having a safe space, a safe platform for the people to come and share their stories, their experiences. That's what we're here for. And that's all covered under the First Amendment. I don't have to be an attorney to know that. You don't have to be an attorney to know that. I'm a US citizen. And so we're we're in the position to be able to share. You really don't. It's almost like what do they say? The Trump derangement syndrome. Where for whatever reason, and I'm not even talking about politics, I'm just talking about you take an individual and you're giving them free rent in your minds. So that's what you're doing. You're really, if it's bothering you that much, you may have voices for voices derangement syndrome, or voices for voices is living rent-free in your mind, or a Catherine derangement syndrome, or a David Solomon derangement syndrome, where an organization or individual or individuals are living rent-free in your mind, and it bothers you just so much. How could that be? I was combat to if these people haven't been abused, haven't been groomed, locked in cages, starved, labor traffic, sex traffic, anything trafficked. These children didn't do anything wrong, these adults didn't do anything wrong. And really to talk about, well, we took this particular individual because we thought he was a minor, but he wasn't. So we had to we had to change the paperwork. Why didn't you even change the paperwork if you're just, you know, chilling and watching Netflix for a few days? So that's something to think about. It's a lot to think about. And we also want to not lose sight of the survivors in and around Lecter County, Kentucky. It's become an infamous area where Sheriff Mickey Steins went into Judge Kevin Mullen's chambers, shot and killed him, murdered him. And there are which we have had on our show recently as well. Survivors who have been through some pretty pretty awful traumatic events, others who have seen a little bit, not a little bit, a lot from the outside. Really? I can't imagine going through what they went through and are going through. It's really it really blows and boggles the mind to think that there's human beings that are that mean, that sick, that deranged out and about. And so again, we we pray for the people, individuals, organizations who have been part of the abusing, taking advantage of children, uh, adults, anybody. To go to an unbiased law enforcement agency and confess those crimes, confess those things. It's gonna take a big burden off of your shoulders, it's gonna help survivors start to heal, even just a teeny bit. So thank you for all the all the individuals that have come on our show, and there's been others in the past that we've we've had on uh early in our in our show catalog and throughout. We we we've had other survivors, and so it goes for everybody. None of us are perfect, none of us are claiming that oh you're not perfect, or no, none of us are perfect, but if you're gonna go ahead and take advantage of somebody, do things against their will that aren't their consent, if you're using force or other methods, uh different, you know, pumping them full of drugs, uh that's not consent. So I just want to close the show out and say thank you. Thank you to all the survivors, even the ones that don't feel comfortable that don't want to don't want to come on the show. That's okay. Don't worry, don't you worry, one iota. We're just trying to do the little bit that we can and the little bit of time that we're here on earth to help in what little way we can. So thank you for trusting us for you to come on the show and to have free reign to talk about what you want to talk about and share what you want to share about. That's why we don't have we don't have gotcha questions like oh, but I got you there. Like that doesn't do anything for anybody, and it's voices for voices. You hear my voice a lot. So that's why when we had guests on, I just love to let them share as much as possible because they're the individuals that have the have their stories to tell. And we just want to be that safe place, that safe space where an individual or individuals can come, share, talk, get things off their mind, off their chest, off their shoulders, the burden. And I go back to the beginning. As long as we're able to help one person, voices for voices, over the course of the organization. That's one last person that has to go through what could be a horrific situation, a dangerous situation, a life or death situation. So you do one last thing for us. You can smash that subscribe button, follow, share, like all those things are free to do. If you can do that, if you can share far and wide, worldwide, if you're in Finland, if you're in Norway, if you're in Brazil, if you're in Antarctica, or if you're in Russia, if you're in North Korea or South Korea, or China, or Canada, or Italy, France, Switzerland, and all the other countries of the world. We want you to come with us for this journey. It's because of you that we're here at episode 370. It's because of you that we're continuing on after episode 370, God willing. Because we don't know if we're gonna know if this is our last day on earth, the last minute, second. None of us know that. So thank you very much. Thank you for helping us get closer and closer to not only helping three billion people, but uh helping at least three billion people because we believe that we can go we can go higher than that three billion people to help over the course of my lifetime and beyond. And until next time, let's celebrate our voices, one and all, and please be a voice for you or somebody in need. We'll see you next time. Thank you so much for joining us. Have a great day wherever you may be.