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Survivor and Inspirer Catherine Davi | Ep 368

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Survivor and Inspirer Catherine Davi | Ep 368

A brave voice cuts through the noise. Catherine joins us to share how grooming crept into her life through secrecy, staged maturity, and online manipulation—and how she fought to be believed, gathered evidence, and began to heal. With David helping facilitate, we unpack the exact tactics abusers use: isolating kids from parents, normalizing sexualized content, coaching concealment, and exploiting social media DMs to keep everything hidden in plain sight.

We also get honest about the aftermath. Catherine describes freeze responses during interviews, fragmented memories, and the physical toll of trauma. We explore why that’s normal from a neurobiology lens and how somatic therapy, compassionate psychology, and steady community support can reconnect mind and body. Her journey includes faith as a source of mercy rather than shame, and a reminder that healing is possible without rushing or minimizing what happened.

This conversation is a practical guide, not just a testimony. We outline clear safety steps for families: no filming minors without parent consent, no private adult–child messaging, parent-monitored accounts, and scripts kids can use to reject boundary testing. We detail how to preserve digital evidence, what trauma‑informed interviewing should look like, and why “pressure” is not consent. If you’re a survivor, a parent, an educator, or an advocate, you’ll leave with tools to recognize grooming, language to support disclosure, and hope that truth can still win.

If this moved you, subscribe, share it with someone who needs it, and leave a review to help more people find the show. Your voice might be the reason another survivor is heard.

Chapter Markers

0:00 Welcome And Mission Of The Show

1:41 Honoring Advocates And Policy Impact

2:59 Meet Catherine: Why She’s Speaking Out

4:31 Grooming Beginnings And Coercion

6:23 Going Public, Building Evidence, Pressing Charges

9:36 Health Impacts And Early Healing Steps

11:40 Legal Loopholes And Frustrations

13:36 Hidden Recordings And Online Exploitation

16:28 Trauma Memories, Flashbacks, And Freeze

18:29 Hostility From Authorities And Breached Trust

22:03 Dismissal, Mislabeling, And Medical Evidence

25:15 Fetishization, Predatory Profiling, And Sexualization

27:20 Timeline Clarified And Parental Learning

29:45 Occult Elements And Manipulation Tactics

32:05 Online Safety: Parents And Consent

34:12 Red Flags And Practical Prevention Tips

36:24 Parental Awareness And Manipulation Of Family

39:16 Somatic Therapy, GED, And Future Hopes

41:37 Faith, Deliverance, And Finding Meaning

45:15 Naming Evil, Free Will, And Resilience

48:20 Speaking Out Despite Stigma And Silencing

51:05 Pressure Is Not Consent

53:54 Relearning Identity And Creative Healing

1:01:50 Gratitude, Encouragement, And Closing

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Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Hey everyone, Justin Alan Hayes from Voices for Voices . Thank you so much for joining us on another episode of the show. Um whether you're watching here in the United States or uh one of the close to 100 countries across the world, whether you're watching, whether you're listening, we're so thankful and grateful to have you with us uh today. If this is your first episode, welcome to the Voices for Voices TV Stream podcast. I'm your host, Justin Alan Hayes, and we share uh experiences, we share public safety, public health concerns. Uh we we we share us as human beings as we uh evolve and as uh some uh some topics come up that uh make seems uh we we tackle those topics, so that's one thing that makes us different than some of the other shows that are out there that they'll put the brakes on uh on on certain topics, and and uh that's something that we don't do at Voices for Voices. Uh so wanted to share that. Also, if you can smash that subscribe button, give us a big thumbs up, like, follow, share, all those great things are free to do. And it helps us get closer to our goal of helping three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond. And thank you so much for joining us because without you, our viewers and listeners, we would have no show, we would have nobody to be talking to, uh, or uh if you're listening. Uh want to give a uh a quick shout out to our 2025 voice of the year award recipient. Uh that is Senator Ted Cruz from the Great State of Texas. We had uh the privilege and an honor to uh sit down uh episode number 316. Uh after you watch this episode uh listen to this, you can uh go back to that one to uh check that out. Uh awesome experience, a great person, not just the legislature, and it's a real uh real champion and what we do as an organization. And so it's just really great to link up with him and that all came through to take it down, uh now federal law uh that was uh kickstarted uh by Ellison Barry and her mother, Miss Anna. So I want to thank all of them as well as uh husband Mark McAdams and Leaf uh Warrior United, his brand working so hard, helping a lot of people as well. So today we have on our show uh we have two guests uh both come in to us virtually uh um parts unknown. Uh first we have a uh guest we've we've had on uh uh before, and we asked him to join us in this episode uh to help facilitate uh between uh himself and our uh our guest, Katherine David. I'll just stick with Katherine, so I don't uh uh thank you David. Uh thank you so much for joining us, Catherine. Thank you so much for coming to be with us today.

David Solomon:

Thank you.

Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Absolutely. Okay, the floor is yours, David.

David Solomon:

Alright, well, I uh I met Catherine on TikTok just seeing like what kind of reach she has with her story, and her story has so many similarities to to mine and other victims, and I just wanted the audience um to just hear her story from her own words, because it's really phenomenal when you hear what she's been through and how far she's come and how she's exposing these things, and these people are calling her out similar to me, to my wife, to my family, to other victims involved. And uh, and so I'm gonna let her take it away. So, Catherine, where would you like to begin?

Catherine Davi:

Um, well, I mean, I I do recall a lot of the sexual assaults and the grooming started more around, I would say, 14 to 17 years old. And I know off and on there was grooming. I know there were videos recorded of me and videos I was pressured to record and manipulated into. So it was definitely a battle. And some of it involves my half-sister, others it was maybe some of her friends, other people I'm not sure if they were connected to her, but it was definitely a lot of grooming and a lot of things that happened to me. So now I'm just sharing my healing journey about the whole process, and I'm hoping that I can help other people of various backgrounds and religions to heal themselves and to understand how to expose. And maybe their way isn't the same as my way before exposing, but I can still encourage them to start speaking out because that's very important in order to heal.

David Solomon:

And what what made you want to in the first place expose? Like what uh what prompted you to go to TikTok out of all places? What made you do that?

Catherine Davi:

Mainly it was because I saw some of the videos of me still on the internet, and I decided it would be a good idea for me to expose it. I had other people who were encouraging me to start speaking out, and I had other people who were talking about one person wanted me to try to document my injuries and told me to go to the emergency room. I did what they told me to do, and then afterwards I was also recommended to uh from the emergency room to try to have some resources, and I went to ADA County Victim Service Center and I shared what happened to me. And they said, Because you're a minor, we're going to have to report this to the police. And then I decided from there to press charges because I've already had the encouragement that I should have pressed charges beforehand, um, before I even went to the ADA County Victim Service Center. Um then I had a police interview and it was a little rough. It was definitely rough, but I just been building evidence from there on end and I've had a forensic psychologist diagnoses. I've been exposing some of the videos. I know I couldn't expose everything because I am trying to keep my half-sister anonymous, and some of it on TikTok might get taken down if I show all the graphic details, but I try my best to show what I can. And I just think that it will help other victims too, because I know I'm not the only one. I've seen other kids who went through similar experiences too, with being exploited and groomed, and that they had similar experiences where they were on social media too, and also being taken advantage of. So I thought it would be good for me to call it out on TikTok and I started to post more about my experience.

David Solomon:

And can you um uh can you talk about like uh when did this all start? Take take me through that. When did this all start for you?

Catherine Davi:

When were you I would say I would say mainly like 14 to 17, but for my parents, they and when I was a toddler, they went to like South Carolina and I think even North Carolina, and they were trying to get deliverance and stuff, and the people turned out to be into like dark practices, they were very strange, and my parents tried to leave, but they were still contacting them, and my half sister decided when she was older to reach out to them, and I guess she's still connected to the daughter of one of them, and it showed on Facebook, and I just I don't really remember much much about that experience, but my mother believes that part of that, along with also her kidnapping when she was a minor, affected the situation possibly. We don't really know exactly when it fully started, but that was the main event, I would say, from 14 to 17 was when it started to happen to me even more. Even 13, there was still stuff happening, but it was it's kind of vague in my mind, so I don't remember all the details, but I just try to call out what I know.

David Solomon:

And so, like uh when you turned an adult, obviously you knew these things were happening. What what happened next after all these horrendous events happened and all the uh targeting and all the police abuse? Talk about that. What do you think about it?

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, I I I try to um seek help spiritually, and I also had a forensic psychologist diagnoses give me some like help to understand myself better and also to build up evidence too. And that's been helpful to understand about like triggers and stuff the more I do research on the topic. And overall, I would just say it's been a lot of like healing of the physical body because I have and also spiritually, I've had some injuries from what happened a little bit. They're more mild, but they still kind of affected me. And I've been having massage therapy, you know, every now and then. It's probably been over a month since I had a massage therapy appointment. But I've gotten better and I've improved with my leg and stuff, so it's not as painful to walk on. It still sometimes flares up, but it's gotten a lot better. And I feel like overall a lot of the trauma is starting to go away now. And of course, I'm still a little sketchy about like law enforcement, a little scared of them, but I'm still hoping that there'll be justice regardless, and I will just be praying for the exposure of this because there's too much evidence online. My half-sister was very close to being arrested, but I guess there was just a legal loophole preventing her from being fully arrested. And the detective investigated some of her posts about how to rape women and stuff, and he thought it was absolutely horrendous, but he couldn't do much because he was told that there was a legal loophole to it. So I'm just hoping that there'll be more justice eventually for the situation physically, legally, I want to make sure that they're called out. Even if it's just on TikTok, I still feel like it's exposure. And even if it's just on this show, I still feel like it's calling something out, and it's also healing because I feel like I'm able to speak out than just be silented and I couldn't have my own opinion or say on the matter.

David Solomon:

Right. And it's important to expose these things. Like I I personally watch the the video of you being groomed, and I I watched that video, and then you look at these kids in the woods singing these songs that we talked about, and you look at and you look at the similarities, and you can't help but wonder this is grooming. I mean, you would agree.

Catherine Davi:

Exactly. And it at one woman's house, there was like, you know, my parents didn't know I was being recorded, they didn't know that some of these adults were allowing uh and wanting me to be on their YouTube accounts, and they didn't know that there were some weird topics being addressed in some of these videos, and my parents were just clueless, and I I just kept it hidden because a lot of it I was told to be silent about with like to hide some of the stuff. So I just kind of kept my mouth shut about things, but my parents started to catch on some red flags, and they didn't know everything, but they saw that there was something definitely wrong with my half-sister, and I've tried to show them as much as I can now that I'm older, what happened, and now that I'm able to speak out, now that I know the terms, I've shown them whatever that I can that was on the internet of me. And I'm also hoping that the police will take action and really see the seriousness of it because I don't want those videos of me like continuing on the internet where other people don't think I'm an adult or whatever because I'm wearing a lot of heavy makeup and I'm acting in a and I want to make sure that it's clarified that I wasn't an adult, I was uh 15, 14, 16, um, maybe 17 in some of these videos. I don't even know if it goes further back, but that's the main times I know that I was on camera for sure. And I do have vague memories about certain things happening to me. I don't always know how I ended up in certain situations, but I definitely know that there was trauma and some of it I remember in details, but other times it's just kind of like choppy and vague because that's kind of how it is. It kind of goes in layers and it's hard to sometimes understand everything that happens to you. And sometimes when you're trying to process it deeply, it can lead to disassociation or derealization. I think for me, I didn't really understand the terms of derealization or whatever, but I think that's what I was experiencing oftentimes when I would start recalling these memories with like flashbacks, and I would just like zone out because they would just kind of hit me randomly. So, especially the more I started healing, the more I started to have more recalls of things, and then it kind of just released out of my body. It was a little bit triggering at first, but then I started to heal more.

David Solomon:

Wow. So you and you've gotten to heal, but you've also I've seen like not all law enforcement is bad, obviously, but some law enforcement has treated you as not the victim but a criminal.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, like that's how I felt because I felt when I I was told not to pray for a suspect, which I don't know if this was like what the prayer request was about. I don't even know if it's real, I don't even know who who or what or when or how it got sent, but I just know that this detective was angry at me for this prayer request and she was angry at my mom for it. And it's freedom of speech to pray. So I don't understand the issue of it, but I know when I was in the interview being interrogated, it felt like I could feel before the discussion happened that the detective was already going to be hostile because I'm very sensitive to people's emotions and it started to scare me because that's kind of was a trigger because I want I I was there to be heard, and then I just started to kind of like disassociate or I just was kind of in and out of it. I couldn't fully understand what I was saying, but I was trying to put the words together about what happened to me, but because she kept on interrupting so much and scattering the names and the evidence and asking even inappropriate questions, I I just went into this zoned out zone where I couldn't even communicate properly and I wanted to communicate.

David Solomon:

It's called uh fight or flight, yes.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, yeah. I just or even freeze. I think it was more like a freeze, yeah, like a freeze thing, and then maybe the talking where I was kind of rambly, but I I was trying to say what happened to me.

David Solomon:

It might have been a form of fighting, but verbally, it was just it was trauma, like if someone's hostile towards you like that, yeah, and you know, they're wearing a badge and you're supposed to trust them and they're making you afraid that yeah. And yeah, I can relate to that because I I got threatened by a detective in the same sort of way, actually.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, and that's what kind of happened to me. I'm not trying to get emotional on camera, but okay. I I just know for a while it was very, very difficult to feel like I was safe around law enforcement because of what happened, and it was just just hard for me to feel safe and comfortable communicating to a detective about what was very vulnerable, and she kept on like saying things that just kept triggering me. I try to bring it to her supervisor's attention and I felt like I was being dismissed, but I don't think they meant to be like that, but I think they were just kind of a little neglectful of the situation, they didn't know how serious it was. So I'm also calling out the doctor Ashley King, who was uh who talked to the doctor and who talked to the detective about this, and I didn't give consent. So that was very upsetting. Um, but of course I'm doing better. It's just a little like emotional to bring it up sometimes because it makes me a little angry that I I see that there's other people who haven't received justice either when they have a lot of evidence, and I have enough to say that there was something that happened to me, even if it's a little scattered with my words. And I try to show the video of what happened, like the first video, but then I was cut off with like certain evidence. I wasn't allowed, like I didn't, I wasn't able to give phone numbers, I was only uh giving first and last names, which was weird. I couldn't give addresses. It was just very hostile of a situation.

David Solomon:

That's how um when uh when I came back, the police treated me the same. They were like, Well, where were you held at? Well, I don't know the address. Well, it didn't happen. What am I supposed to do? Like, am I supposed to memorize like your mind freezes when you're sexually assaulted? It's like your mind freezes.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, for me, I did know the addresses of a lot of these people. Of course, I I I could have just written it down, I could have just gave it to her, but she wasn't asking me about the addresses or phone numbers. I've had the the addresses and phone numbers for a lot of these people, and I just felt like she wasn't taking her job as seriously, and I was just I'm just kind of hoping that eventually she will, but it just seemed like there was a little bit of unprofessionalism, corruption. I don't know what you would call it, but there was something and kind of like bias to the suspects.

David Solomon:

The doctor thing I can relate to that too, because the detective that threatened me and my wife went to my doctor and did the same thing. Yeah. Went, oh, I wasn't supposed to do that. No, you were not supposed to do that. No, you know, I feel you as a victim because you know, a similar situation where you're not believed because you know, for me, I have autism, right?

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, and and so I can't be believed because God forbid I graduated at 12 and I have a high IQ, but I have autism, so you know, um yeah, and also I've had a mild autism diagnosis in the past, and it mentions it on my um forensic diagnoses. I don't really know whether it was from a TBI, like a traumatic brain injury, because I was like pushed and stuff, and I've fell and I don't remember everything that happened, but I've had blacked out some points where it was kind of choppy too. And I don't really know if it was autism or if it was uh TBI because of what happened, but my neck from an x-ray, which I would like to get the x-ray again so I could have another copy to show people. It went from like the left to the right, and the chiropractor didn't have an explanation for it. But the thing that made sense to him the most when I was like, Well, I do recall actually like some injuries, possibly. And he was like, That wouldn't make sense. So that's why I feel like it might not be autism, but the detective was dismissing me. And when she was asking my mom questions, she went to autism almost instantly instead of listening to me. So I felt patronized with that. Like it was a way to try to shut me up. But now that I have a like a CPTSD diagnoses I can use, not to identify as traumatized, not to identify as a victim, but to be able to overcome it and to be a survivor, I wanted to show that I had real trauma that happened. And after that, the detective didn't reach out to us and it just seemed very weird. But it's just been hard to give evidence now because we try to email it because when we try to go in person, she got really hostile. But emails we were just ignored, so it's definitely not making sense. Nobody responded back, you know, and there was a lot of evidence, and it was also about like some of the stuff was about my half-sister, some of it was about other people, some of it was like what I was starting to recall, like more of an update on that. And it just felt like they were just trying to ignore it or that they weren't intentionally, but they it was just kind of just thrown under the rug.

David Solomon:

And could be either, yeah. And I don't really know, like you you've really exposed, like for the audience out there, you know, she has really shown the brutal evidence that these events happened, kind of like me, where you show the brutal evidence, like there are documents documenting there are injuries that took place, there are doctor notes on her TikTok. These events happened, and these go ahead.

Catherine Davi:

Oh, sorry, not to interrupt, but I also had um like my leg checked, so it was told um from I think it was St. Luke's Orthopedics, it said it was a possible um torn uh labrium in the hip area, and I was getting massage therapy, so it's starting to help with that more, still has some pains and stuff, but I believe God's gonna heal that. Um and I just I I try to give that to the police. It just feels like it's kind of being ignored. I felt like I was being kind of laughed at almost, like not saying that the detective was really laughing at me, but she was dismissing the injury to my leg. And it hurts me. I'm not saying that's 100% evidence, but it's a little bit of evidence to show that I was injured, you know. So, and then I have other stuff to show that something did happen.

David Solomon:

And they're ignoring it, and and that that shows me like, do we care? Like, it's on there for the world to see that this happened. In one of your TikToks, you um you posted something that grooming happens today, and then you showed the video of you singing and doing these obscure things as a minor, horrible things. Yeah. And you look at that and go, how is there not a prosecution on these people?

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, especially my half-sister, because there's a lot online about her that is showing that she's talking about how to sexually assault women. She's talking about what happened to me, and she's talking specifically about females. It's not even about guys, she's talking about women, and of course, she talks about Arabs too and wanting them, but it's just very disgusting behavior. And I feel like it's a personal thing too, and also her fetishizing race and ethnicity. I do feel like it's kind of personal too, because she was kind of doing that with me a bit, a little bit, and then other adults were in kind of doing that to me as well, like they were making it into a sexual thing and predatory, predatory uh profiling is what it's called.

David Solomon:

Yeah.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, yeah. So they're trying to kind of get me in into almost like the sexualized character, and I wasn't really realizing what was happening, but I was just kind of manipulated into acting a certain way, and I didn't see what was like fully the full picture of it. I only I was like, okay, maybe I this is a little bit weird, but you know, I kind of just dismissed it because I was kind of manipulated. So it was wasn't really registering in my mind at the time what was really wrong with it, and especially since um my half sister was just like, oh, your parents are strict with you, and they're they're the problem. So it's it's actually like okay to do certain things, kind of mentality. And then she would send me like lingerie and stuff to to me, and I would sometimes wear like, you know, on some of these videos, like I'm wearing really large uh push-up brash. And I'm like, that's definitely not appropriate for a minor to be dancing like that while wearing a large push-up bra, and you know, just the the whole sexualization to make me look like I was a grown woman. And a lot of guys, if I would wasn't disclosing my age, they thought I was older.

David Solomon:

So and how many, how many years ago did this happen?

Catherine Davi:

Um, well, I would say probably when it stopped. Well, I was 17, so and now on Christmas, I'm going to be 20 years old. So it was not that long ago. Yeah, it was just like a few couple of years ago or so. It wasn't that long when it stopped. Like, and I was trying to get away from my half-sister around like 16 and a half, 17, but it was still kind of off and on contact because she was still reaching out and kind of like manipulating a little bit. So I was still a little influenced in some ways, but my parents were trying their best to try to keep an eye on me, even though they weren't tech savvies. They were trying to be better with that. Um, but now they've started to learn about the dangers about you know, grooming and sexual assault and understood about my half sister. And we also found some of the like objects from my half-sister mixed in with like witchcraft and stuff. And like there was a notebook of like my hair cut into it, and it was talking about 11-year-old me being nude and how I don't want especially my half-sister to see. That does not sound like a regular child writing that.

David Solomon:

No, and I I actually saw some of this evidence on TikTok, and um uh the occult through uh through witchcraft means uh performs spells and and all these uh what would you call it, dark practices? Would that be the right word?

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, yeah. And I know they were trying to manipulate me into some of this stuff too, because I was forced into like some of these witchcraft shops around NAPA and stuff, and that they were trying to get me into things that I didn't want to agree with. But after a while, I I started to like want to become a Christian, so I was getting curious. It took some time to really understand, but I was starting to have that interest, and I think that scared them off more. And then I started to clean the house. God was showing certain objects and items around the house, and even my grandparents' house, that's where I found the notebook was in my grandparents' house. And there was a lot of stuff regarding my half-sister in the house and just little items with her stuff mixed in and looked very odd. I would have liked to have more pictures of that, but I tried to provide what I could. And I know there's screenshots online about like some groups that she followed to that also, and also her connections as well to certain people. So even though I'm keeping her anonymous, I know the police are aware about her connections, and I'm hoping once they start taking it seriously, that they can really um look at both sides, like both the people that she's connected to, like the people who kidnapped my mother when she was a minor, and also the cultic group, and just see like their connections between one another, because it seems like there's a connection. I don't really know and understand how, but something's wrong and weird and whack about how they're all just kind of are connected in certain ways and how that and even the people who kidnapped my mother were into some weird stuff as well, even though they try to act like they were Christians too. So it just seems like a similar pattern. So yeah, that's it's been one thing after another. And I'm also fine if you want to share any posts of mine onto here, just so people can understand. Before so, there's a little bit of a.

David Solomon:

Yeah, and I was gonna say that. So her TikTok, what is your TikTok?

Catherine Davi:

It's Catherine dot Dobby.

David Solomon:

And you can find her just looking at Katherine Dobby on uh on a TikTok search, and there's all these videos that come up. Um one in particular. Hit me really hard as a survivor was children should not be uh what was it, private messaging adults without parents around?

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, children shouldn't be having social media access or even have other adults like record them without parents being around without their consent. And also the parents need to be monitoring them and not just trust random family or friends, even if they seem like they're close to you, because the parents are the ones who need to be watching. And these people can easily take advantage of kids, even if they seem like they're really good people, that they would never do such a thing, or whatever. It's it's best to just be the adult supervising the child. If you're a parent, if you're a mom or a dad, I would recommend that.

David Solomon:

And it's funny because that's why I was taken, is because the person, Brian, that took me is he private messages kids 10 to 20 hours a week to bring their parents back. And that right there went, Whoa, this really shows you know, you as a survivor trying to make a difference. You get what people go through, but you're also uh like myself and my family trying to make a difference and show that these are the steps so that this doesn't happen.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

David Solomon:

So talk about that because you have a lot of posts on that. Uh not every day, but some every day where you go, you know, this is what you can do to help this stop this from happening. Talk about that.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, I just point point out the signs. I have made videos about signs of grooming and stuff like that. I've talked about, you know, kids shouldn't be having you know social media if their parents aren't going to be monitoring them because that's gonna put them in danger. Other adults shouldn't be recording children to do these random videos without consent, you know, and that's why you need to ask the parents first for permission. And the child also needs to be comfortable as well, because if the child's not comfortable, if the child's upset or distressed in any way, you shouldn't have it posted. And I would just say that's the main things. I've talked about consent on my account before. I've talked about why pressuring is wrong. I've also exposed another account that was connected, another victim, or uh hopefully he'll be a survivor out of the situation. I'm praying that he will get out of the situation. That on his account, he was talking about how you can like remember, it takes time for somebody to do something with you, just ensure them that they can do the things they're scared of the most, and that he was referring to romantic and sexual things, and it was very weird. So I've screenshotted that and saved it for evidence.

David Solomon:

Well, and as you should, so like um the people that did this, very similar ideas where they manipulate and they prey on the most vulnerable.

Catherine Davi:

Exactly.

David Solomon:

And and that's what's happened here, that's what's happened to me, that's what's happened. I mean, for goodness sake, you saw the video of the kid in the woods. Where are the parents? Yeah, where are the parents?

Catherine Davi:

It's because it's done without consent, usually. Or of course, there are some parents that may be involved with certain things, but oftentimes it's usually the parents aren't aware and they're trying to isolate the parents from the child, and that's what they do.

David Solomon:

Now, during what happened to you, your mom was aware. Did she try to stop it? What happened there? Or do you remember for that matter?

Catherine Davi:

Well, my mom wasn't fully aware of everything, so she she started to catch on later on to some of the stuff. She noticed my behavior was weird because of like around 13, I started to self-harm and I was trying to take my life in certain ways. So I was starting to have some behavior that she was kind of concerned about because the school called her and she was concerned about what I was doing, but she didn't know why. I didn't fully understand or express my emotions at the time, so I didn't really know what was going on, but I just knew I was upset and depressed, and I know I was being manipulated as well. So I was just feeling absolutely horrible. And then my mom tried to allow me to have social media so I could feel a little freedom, but she wanted my half-sister to supervise, and my half sister agreed because that was the agreement. Since my half sister was trying to send me a phone, my mom's like, okay. And my mom and dad were saying, okay, as long as you're watching her social media, making sure that she's not in danger. It wasn't to control my whole TikTok account. It was just to make sure the posts were appropriate for my age and that there weren't any creeps in my comments that I was interacting with and just to keep it safe. But my half sister was actually doing the opposite and she was encouraging a lot of the inappropriate behavior. I was about to run off, run away from my family, from my parents, because she was trying to say that they were too strict and that she would give me better job opportunities in Georgia once when she moved out there. And she was just kind of manipulating me a lot online once I was like 15, 16. There was a lot of manipulation from there. She tried to send packages to mainly like my grandmother's house. She would send them because my grandmother wouldn't open up the mail or anything. So she was just sending it to her, and then I would receive some of the stuff and then I would hide it from my parents in various ways. I was, she taught me how to hide certain things. And she also taught me to delete some of the stuff off my phone and kind of just hide it, where it looked like if my parents ever checked my phone, that it would be kind of like a disguise so it wouldn't like show anything that was inappropriate if they glanced or whatever. So I was constantly trying to hide, even though they weren't tech savvy. She was still cautious. And then my mom caught a couple of things, a couple of weird conversations, a couple weird phone calls and stuff. And she started to see that I was Googling on their computer about how to run away and looking at my half-sister's address. So they kind of caught certain things that was very manipulative in certain conversations that were inappropriate. So they stopped contact with her. But she also called every now and then and did some kind of suspicious things with my parents that like kind of like manipulated them and pulled at their heart strings, like, help, I've been kidnapped. I've been kidnapped. Her friend did that and pretended to be her. And then my half-sister calls and was like, Oh, that didn't happen. But I hope um me and my brother were okay. And it was a very weird thing to say. And my parents-law was off, but my parents tried to report it to the police and it was a burner phone number, so they didn't do anything about it. But I recognized the voice behind the phone call, so that's how I knew it was her friend. And yeah, so she was just kind of manipulating my parents off and on too, so to get trust. And it was just kind of off and on thing, but my parents caught on after a while. And then once I started to learn about certain things and I started getting more deliverance and healing, that I was able to advocate for myself a little more and to express certain things. And also I had a little bit of a leg injury from what happened. So my parents were kind of noticing certain things that needed to be addressed. So they tried to take me to certain places to get help, like at chiropractor or whatever, and it didn't really do much. So later on, um, I just, you know, try to give massage therapy once I started to after I reported it to the police. Then I learned about that because I had a friend who was kind of getting me interested in that. So I've been doing that to help my body, and it's been releasing a lot of like the stress and the trauma a lot. So it's been kind of like somatic therapy for me. And that now I'm able to recall certain details and let my parents know, even though they weren't always there with everything, a lot of times it was hidden that I can still let them know that there were certain things that were strange and that they can help me in certain ways to address, you know, and they can advocate for me if needed. So my mom's been a big help with it, especially.

David Solomon:

So that's awesome. And it's awesome that you really come out of this a survivor and not actually a victim, and like you've helped others. I've seen the comments like there are others that are inspired.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, there are others. There's a lot of people, and I feel like in in general, it's best to expose it and call it out. I know some police will say, like, don't expose this, don't expose that, because they could be deleting evidence, but they were trying to hide what happened, but it was on the internet, so I just took the opportunity to show what it was on there and it just kind of exposed them even further. And that's that's just amazing that like no one's doing anything with all of this, they're just letting it sit and be like, oh that's why I'm hoping that they will do something, especially because I know my half-sister has been kind of blabbing away on her Reddit account and saying a lot of weird confessions. Her recent post was saying that she uh I know some people might think it's for adults, but her wording was kind of weird about this. She was saying that she wants to send pictures that said boys and girls. She did not say men and women, she said boys and girls, and that's kind of a little bit of a weird thing. Um she's been hinting about like just sexual stuff and kind of it's been weird because it's been about rape and stuff, and I I really hope the police will see it. You know, she talked about wanting to kill herself because I was calling it out. So my mom called the police because we were worried because we didn't want her to kill herself. She was just talking about it, and then she turned it turned out just to be something that wasn't true.

David Solomon:

Wow. Yeah, she needs for those watching, even in the White House for that matter, um, you know, this needs dealt with. These are these are the problems that police are turning a blind eye to. And you know, her half-sister uh is a groomer and and could be worse than that, for that matter.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, I don't even know everything that she's doing. I just know what happened to me and my story, and I just remember vague things about like, you know, her influence about her doing certain things with certain people, but I just can't really know about every single detail about all her connections with them, but I just know that she's involved with some of the stuff with other adults, so it wasn't just her alone.

David Solomon:

Wow. So there are other people working with her too. Yeah. And so, like, going forward with you, like, what do you want to do with your life now now that you're exposing this and having such an impact on TikTok and people hearing your story and hearing your voice, what do you want to do?

Catherine Davi:

I want to help people and I want them to be able to see the seriousness that this is more common than what other people think because I thought I was just kind of alone until I've started to hear more people talk about it and I started to get healing. I've started to hear more stories about it, and I'm just encouraging people to start getting the help they need, whatever will benefit them. I've done even prayers for people on my account recently to try to help them with certain things. And I'm hoping that they'll it'll motivate them to start healing, both physically and spiritually, that they will even start calling out whatever they have as as evidence if the police aren't doing anything for them. Um, I recommend to do that, you know, just to make it known what happened to you. Of course, some people have different stories, it's not always the best for others, but I would recommend that oftentimes sharing it. And I would just want to continue to help other people and kind of minister to them and just let them know there's other people out there and that they're not alone. I don't know what I will be doing for a job as I'm getting older or whatever, but I just will allow God to lead, you know. So I'm currently trying to build my GED. It's been a slow process, but I am getting there. And I'm hoping that once I'm able to graduate, that I can do something in order to help people. I don't know if I'll be um writing books or whatever, but I would like to share my story and my testimony. And the more I get healing, the more I know it's going to help others to see that it's not always a dark situation, that you can always heal. And I believe healing is possible with Jesus a hundred percent.

David Solomon:

And you really leaned in on your faith. What what made you lean on your faith? I I can relate to that as a Christian.

Catherine Davi:

I think it was just me feeling like I was so hopeless and I wanted to understand more about like God. And I I think once I started to see that there was a lot of darkness there, and I started kind of put the puzzle pieces together that something wasn't adding up, even though I did feel already things were wrong. I think it was just my turning points, and I started to see that God was real, you know, because I was kind of not unsure. I mean, I believed that there was some type of God, but I didn't know exactly who. And I started to get into deliverance specifically, where I wanted to see about that first before I even got fully saved. It was just something that nudged me into like healing and getting closer to God and understanding that God's not condemning for what happened to me and even some of the brainwashing that happened where I thought was true. He's a merciful God and he's not going to shame you guys if you have fallen short and you might have not understood what was happening to you, or you know, maybe you were trying to heal in certain ways that weren't the best at the time. Maybe you tried drugs or whatever, but God's there for you. And I realized that God's there and that he was the comfort. And that's why I'm advocating because I've seen the spiritual realm now, and I have other people who witnessed it with me. And it's just gotten me to strengthen my faith and to really understand the meaning behind the Bible and stuff. So I'm understanding that God is love and he's not this harsh God that's going to be hateful on people who are just struggling and who really are looking for a solution and who are good people.

David Solomon:

And so, like with your with your faith now, which seems even more strong than it ever was. Oh, yeah. You know, God is really used to. I've seen it on all of your TikToks, and I'm like, okay, people are paying attention to your story. Some people are even saying, wow, she's a Christian and she went through this. A lot of people ask, why does God allow this to happen to us? What would you say?

Catherine Davi:

I would say the reason why some things happen is because there was the fall of man and there was corruption, but that doesn't mean that you're a bad person when it happens to you. But there's other people who have free will to hurt other people. And that once you are covered in the blood, that it can't hurt you once you are really on fire for God, once you really understand the tactics of the enemy, that you will be wise and understand how to help other people. And it can't, it can't hurt you anymore afterwards. Because for me, I was getting all kinds of attacks, in this my opinion. If you guys don't agree, that's okay. But I believe that God will protect you once um it's all like I just I'm just saying like God's the one who's I'm getting a little like hot. I'm sorry.

David Solomon:

Um why am I getting hot?

Catherine Davi:

I I just think that Satan's the one who hurts people, and it's not God. And I think that's because of the fall of man, and I don't think it's a person's fault. I know sometimes there are consequences for other people's actions, and then it can affect other people, but that doesn't mean that you're to blame.

David Solomon:

Right. And so, like, the main thing I've learned with spiritual warfare is it's very real. Um Satan uses it to manipulate, to corrupt, to exploit. In a lot of your videos, there's just so much truth in there talking about this is happening. Particularly with grooming, uh, which we've talked about on the show. Actually, the episode before you, that grooming is so real, and and parents, I I really want you to hear her warning that children should not be on social media without you at least knowing who they're talking to because this is a grooming uh what would you call it, graveyard, if you will. You know, kids are gonna be groomed. Like they don't know better.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, they can know better, and it's easy for them to be manipulated and brainwashed. And I know God can reveal once there's something that happens, if you're really seeking the truth and you're you're really uh just somebody who's wanting to seek facts, that God will show himself. And I know it seems dark because Satan has done a lot of corrupted things, but it's not the person's fault, and it's never the person's fault for when it happens to them. And Satan's the big fat loser, and he's the one who does darkness to people. And I think there was a little bit of a spiritual attack when I was trying to share that because and I started to get hot. I'm really unsure how that just hit me because it's very cold outside, so I don't know why it just it was just like this hot flash, and it made it hard for me to speak. But I know Satan is real and I know God's real, but Satan is afraid of God, and once you really see through the schemes of the enemy that these things you are unstoppable once you start seeing the truth and calling it out because Satan doesn't like it when you call it out. Even if you're not a Christian, that calling it out will strengthen you and help you to be built up so you can help others. So that's something that Satan hates. And I believe in all religions that people who are trying to do good that they would call out evil and injustice, and that's what God's about. And he's not about just hiding and just um, you know, saying, Oh, I forgive you once you hurt me. You can forgive the person, yes, but you also need to call out once they're hurting you in such a gruesome manner, and it's okay to do so. It's okay when somebody's doing something wrong. It's not just them being a little bit of a jerk, but if they're doing something this evil, it needs to be exposed for the world to see that it's they're not alone.

David Solomon:

And I agree, and like I think what's interesting, a lot of people that say they know God, should we say they think they can get away with this, they think they can just grin. Like, oh, I know God, and you know, just you know, sing that song for me or do that dance, or you know, just act a certain way or say that phrase.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, exactly. And I think that's like they're they don't always know when they're saying something that's inappropriate, and sometimes they might know that's kind of inappropriate and they do it anyways because they're taught to do that. Um but it's not their fault when it happens, and also I know on my account that I think a couple people took out of context that I was trying to say, like, oh, like you have to be pure or whatever. No, I'm not saying to be like after you're sexually assaulted, there's going to be different reactions like hypersexuality and asexuality. When I was calling out my half-sister for posting how to rape people, I was calling out the specific crime behind it. I wasn't shaming people who went through it and who went through hypersexuality and who went through traumas. I'm just talking about somebody who's advocating for real crimes to happen to women. And I think that's good to call out. And I think that once we start speaking out about this stuff, that Satan's going to be exposed even further. And he's not going to like it, of course. So I think that most people need to call out things, even if it didn't affect them, that about certain situations that happen to others, because that's how we're going to be able to connect with one each other with each other and to be able to fight evil like this, especially with the silencing that's going on in the world. There's a lot of politics out there who are trying to stop people from speaking out. And I think it's great to just let it out, just expose what's happening, even if people don't believe right away. It's good just to have it out on the open.

David Solomon:

I can relate to that, and that's what I'm doing. And and you know, you you have really made a difference in a lot of people's lives with your TikTok, getting your story out and letting people go, Oh wow, I was I was sexually assaulted. I've seen posts like that where they're like, Oh my gosh, I'm a victim. I never thought of it that way.

Catherine Davi:

And you know, sometimes you don't realize it's sexual assault because sometimes it's like, oh well, uh you know, they pressured me over and over and over at a given, and then I consented, and then they did this to me. It doesn't mean it's consent.

David Solomon:

No, it doesn't matter.

Catherine Davi:

It definitely is consent. I was definitely pressured with some of the stuff, but other times it was just pure force. And I just know that with individuals, that sometimes when they're being pressured, they're just gonna have that response to like fawn and be like, I I just surrender. I just okay, you're you know, you keep on pressuring me, I don't consent. It's a form of violence, even if people don't see it that way, it's violence to the soul and the mind. And some people don't think pressure is really considered sexual assault, but it really is. And when you're traumatized like that, it's going to wound your mind and it's going to wound your soul, and then you're going to have to heal afterwards and just find ways with somatic therapies and different solutions, you know, you can pray about and ask God, what can I do about this? And he'll show you, and he'll also, if you don't understand why he allows injustice in the world, that you can pray about it yourself too. Because I believe that God just allowed certain things to happen, not because it was his perfect will for it, but just because Satan was the one who was trying to rebel against God, and there was also humans who chose to rebel against God, and that he doesn't violate free will because if he tried to control your will, then that would be a controlling God, and that would be evil. So it's good that we can see that there's solutions out of this tragmatic experience and out of the patterns and the cycle going over and over. And yes, I'm still healing myself, and I still have some openings and openings that are trying to be closed from traumas, and I'm still working on things, for example, like the fear of cops and stuff. I was scared of that for a while. But I believe the more I deal with it, the better I'll get and the stronger I will be. So I just am glad I'm able to speak and let other people hear my testimony. And I also apologize for having like a reaction when I was sweating like that that was very weird.

David Solomon:

I was just kind of stuck, but no, it's all good. It uh things happen.

Catherine Davi:

I've had Yeah, and nerves happen too.

David Solomon:

Yeah, when I when I uh when I talked uh oh goodness, it was 50 episodes ago, but I was talking about what happened to me as a minor, and you know, my throat started to close up.

Catherine Davi:

So yeah, I think that's what I just kind of had like a freeze moment, and I was just sweating. I'm like, it's cold outside, but it's also spiritual too, I believe. And I'm like, because that's a topic where a lot of people are like, why did this happen to me? Why would God allow that if he's such a good God? He is a good God and he doesn't violate free will of others who are trying to rebel against him. And you also can break the patterns if it's a curse that's happening to your mother, your father, or whoever it is, and if there's a pattern you see about trauma, or even in your own life, you see a pattern, things keep on happening to you, that there's probably something there that you need to address and just pray about for God to reveal what it is, because that pattern shouldn't be keep on happening to you in your life, and that you need to address it spiritually, physically, whatever the way that God shows you. And even if you're not a Christian, that just do what it feels to do with your faith in order to heal and just pray about it, you know. You don't have to pray to my God specifically, but God will help you if you're willing for it. But you're I'm open for other people to use their beliefs too, if they believe in another God, and to see if that's going to comfort them as well, because that can even heal some ways too.

David Solomon:

Yeah, trauma is trauma, and like you know, the devil is the one that that has created the trauma.

Catherine Davi:

God never wants God doesn't want you to have trauma. Yeah, it that's not an intention. I think trauma's from the pit of hell. I think trauma is demonic in a way, but it's also a real thing that happens to people where it affects the emotions. It's something that God doesn't want us to carry. I'm not saying it's a demon, I'm just saying it's something that affects people in a way that's really just paralyzes them in an emotional way. And that's why sometimes I might freeze up a little or you know, might not always have the words to say. And I think other people can relate to that and see that trauma is something that's can be hard for people to really get rid of for a while. It's a process that takes, but it's possible to get rid of it completely. And for me, it was both spiritual and physically that I was able to deal with certain things. And I've gotten a lot of healing. I've gotten my ears healed, my heal, my hearing healed more. Like I could hear in more of a balanced way. It used to be very sensitive for me, probably because of the stress. It just got worse and worse. But now God's starting to heal more and more my body and calming down the nervous system, even though, for example, calls like this or TV shows or podcasts, I get a little nervous about. And I think that anybody would get nervous, but especially with trauma, it's kind of like shuts you up sometimes. It's like, don't speak at this moment because what if you say the wrong thing? And I'm glad I'm able to say what I can, you know, and to advocate for myself. And I've gotten a lot better because I would have probably just froze at that point, and I probably wouldn't have gotten out of that. And of course, you can always clarify if you know on your video why I froze, um, just to give people clarity so that it's not like weird if I freeze in between.

David Solomon:

But a lot of people you've been through you've been through a lot, and you're you're a traumatized survivor, and you know, it's kind of like me when I go through things, some people laugh, but it's like, no, I I gotta freeze for a second. I gotta I gotta collect my thoughts there.

Catherine Davi:

Yeah, yeah, you gotta collect your thoughts, and sometimes it's hard because there when you have trauma, you overthink oftentimes. And for me, I'm a definitely an overthinker with certain things. I'm starting to improve in other areas, but when I start overthinking, I'll just kind of shut down and I'm like, oh I'm like, oh, it's getting hot randomly, and I don't know. It's just I'm I'm glad I'm able to share because other people might not understand all of this.

David Solomon:

So and our and to our viewers, like, you know, she's not the only one out there. There are other victims too that you're listening to it at this point, and you know, hear what she's saying if you're in this place of darkness or you're caught up in a cult or someone's, you know, um uh manipulating you like her house sister, what would you give advice to them to do?

Catherine Davi:

I would give advice once you start being aware about it, that you just gotta call it out and talk to somebody that you trust. Sometimes you have to report it to the police if you feel comfortable doing that, um, because then it can just be on record of what happened, even if they don't do anything right away. And I would just say after that, you just focus on healing and doing your research about what are the signs and patterns of grooming in case you suspect it, because you might not always be aware of it. And then afterwards, you can try somatic therapies or whatever you feel like will help you to heal. Everyone's different. And my experience, for example, with Christianity might not be for everyone, and I respect that. And I feel like God has helped me, and that's okay for me to say, but I feel like for other people, they might not be ready or they just might. Might not feel like it's for them and that they could still find healing in other ways. It just might take time. And I just believe even with my situation, it took time too. And God's patience with me for that. And He didn't rush me like some deliverance ministers try to rush me to heal fast. And other ones were just patient with me and slow. And I would just say for any religion that you got to find someone who's going to work at your pace and to not rush you.

David Solomon:

That is wonderfully said. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Catherine Davi:

You're welcome.

David Solomon:

Absolutely.

Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Thank you so much, Catherine.

Catherine Davi:

You're welcome.

Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Thanks also, David, for facilitating and uh also being uh a survivor who's uh starting to starting to thrive. And uh I I think that's where Catherine's at. She's a survivor, and she's gonna start thriving to see our part of that. And there are many others watching and listening at at this time that are gonna be uh just so inspired and and feel like they can come out and they can they can share, and whether that's on a show, a podcast, uh uh maybe that's could be whatever their thing is. Maybe it's playing a sport, maybe it's doing art or doing drama or writing, whatever that thing is or those things are, um that's that's really what we want. And we want people to be happy, uh, however that that comes.

Catherine Davi:

And even expressing yourself with like art and stuff and doing something that you didn't do before when you're oppressed with whatever happened to you, that it's going to heal too, I believe, in some ways. That once once I started to express myself in weird ways and ways that may have seemed a little childish or whatever, it helped me to feel healing enclosure. And I think that once you start doing what feels like it's going to heal you and doing the opposite of what you were conditioned to believe, that you were you had to follow, let's say, legalistic rules from the occult, or you had to follow something like really weird, sketchy, perverted things from a predator that was grooming you, or that you were sexually assaulted and conditioned to believe. I think once you start to do what feels right, once you start doing the opposite, that's also going to bring closure for you. And that if you don't know exactly what to do, just think about it and it can take time. But it's good to start relearning who you are and your identity. And that's what helped me.

Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Absolutely. So we're gonna end on those words. Thank you, Catherine, thank you, David, thank you, our viewers and listeners. Uh, please uh help us share, uh, subscribe, follow, let let your friends, family, uh, everyone know about this episode. This is one of our most powerful episodes today, and we we do uh have a lot of eyes and ears that are uh with us, and we want to thank those uh individuals for their their time uh to uh listen and to watch and to go through uh the the process with with us and with Catherine coming on and just being uh so brave and inspirational. Uh no matter where you are in life, there's there's so much there and there's so much living to do. And uh I just want to say say thank you. It's uh it's a pleasure to have on all the guests we have on, but especially for uh for you, because of hopefully this is a little bit healing of being able to share and you're gonna Yeah, and I I think it is a form of healing just talking about it today.

Catherine Davi:

It's just a little bit of something to add additional closure. I feel like the more I've talked about it and the more evidence I've shared. And now that I'm able to talk on something like this, I feel like it's starting to give more closure and that I feel like I'm being heard, even if there are some people out there who might not understand everything that happened to me. And I understand that, but I feel like it's still giving me closure to just share to the people who are able to hear.

Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes:

Absolutely. So for our viewers and listeners, uh, please celebrate all of our voices, whether we can hear them or whether we're we're unable to, and let's be a voice for ourselves or somebody that may be in need that may uh be asking us uh either uh mentally or physically or spiritually that aren't able to share. If you're able to share for them, uh please reach out. We'd love to have you on as a as a guest because we do have that uh huge goal of wanting to help three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond, and this is going a long way towards it. So we'll see you next time. Take care, everybody.

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