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A Paramedic's Path from Crisis to Courage (Part 2) | Episode 154

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A Paramedic's Path from Crisis to Courage (Part 2) | Episode 154

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0:01 Vaccine Mandates and Medical Concerns
13:22 Ethical Dilemma in Healthcare Compliance
20:01 Empowering Voices Through Shared Experiences
28:51 Promoting Advocacy and Information Sharing

Can a paramedic's firsthand account during the COVID-19 pandemic reshape our understanding of medical protocols and vaccine development? Join us as Harry Fisher, a seasoned paramedic and insightful author, shares his riveting experiences from the pandemic frontline, including the curious cases of "happy hypoxia" and his critical views on hospital protocols. His skepticism about the rapid rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines and the pressure to comply underlines a provocative exploration of healthcare decisions made during this unprecedented time.

My personal journey through the ethical quagmire of vaccine mandates takes center stage as I recount navigating exemption processes and the eventual loss of my job due to non-compliance. These mandates left ambulance services in limbo, severely affecting response times and heightening the stakes for public health. Yet, amidst the chaos, faith and resilience birthed new opportunities, offering a candid glimpse into the interplay between personal beliefs and institutional demands.

Sharing stories became a powerful catalyst for change, leading to the birth of a co-authored book that echoes the collective voice of those who dared to question and speak out. With the ever-evolving landscape of social media, we discuss how platforms, especially since Elon Musk's acquisition, have become sanctuaries for free speech and the exchange of shared experiences. Tune in to discover how advocacy, journaling, and connection can inspire courage and foster community in challenging times.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast. I am your host, founder, executive director of Voices for Voices, justin Allen Hayes. Thank you for all your love, your support. If you can like, share, subscribe, so we can get the message from our guests today, as well as our other 149 plus guests we've had and again we're trying to help as many people as possible. I got a crazy goal of trying to help 3 billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond, and so we're doing the best we can and we're very grateful to have this episode the second episode of a two-part series with our guest that's coming with us through Zoom, mr Harry Fisher.

Speaker 1:

His background he is an ENTP. He is a follower of Christ whom he turns to help him navigate some of what you'll be hearing is also an author. You can find his book that is titled Safe and Effective for Profit A Paramedic Story Exposing American Genocide, and we are going to talk about, you know, the pandemic. Last episode, last week, you saw and heard Harry talking about the facts that he was seeing from his very own patients, the numbers he was seeing well ahead of when the our US government admitted, or let us in on what was happening with what we've grown to know as COVID-19. So, harry, thanks again for joining us and sticking around for our second episode today.

Speaker 2:

Thank you Appreciate it, you're welcome.

Speaker 1:

So let's jump into the middle of the pandemic where the public is being. I'll say at first, offered a vaccine, you can take it, and then the mandates that eventually followed, and I know I personally the decision of it. I was doing some mission travel in Poland and a couple other countries and in order to travel, had to have the vaccine card. So it was like here's your passport, here's your vaccine card. You can't move through without those, and there were certain times where then you also have to have a COVID test within I don't know if it was 24 hours of traveling. And so that's kind of a little bit of my experience.

Speaker 1:

Harry, his experience is more on the medical side, so he's seen patients across the spectrum. He's been doing this work for many years. He's seen a wide continuum of cases, and so that's why it's important we're really grateful to have Harry with us, to be able to talk about his experience, because when we talk about our experience and our facts, that's what is important. We want to bring as many facts to you, our listeners, our viewers, anybody that when you're seeing something that you might want to believe and try to find a way to navigate through that. So if you can pick up wherever you'd like.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean it's, I would say okay. So during COVID anyone who watched the last episode during COVID we were seeing something strange called happy hypoxia, something that we're told to say there is something weird out there. We really don't know what it is. And then we saw basically rigid protocols in the hospitals that were seemingly killing patients. Um, we were taking patients that were that were compensating really well, at super low stats, putting them on ventilators, you know, forcing oxygen, and the patients were dying. Um, that's, that's what we were seeing, or what I was seeing in particular.

Speaker 2:

And then they started offering this experimental shock, this miracle drug that everything was going to be okay, it's super safe, and my alarm bells were already going off that they did it so fast, because I've been doing this a long time and anytime you tell me, hey, we've got this medication that we just came out with, I want you all to take it, my alarm bells are going to be like, well, that's a little weird, what's in it? And then it started being weird whenever you asked what's in it and they'd be like I don't know. I mean, does it matter? I mean, don't you just want to be free, bro? And I don't like that answer. I already am free, like I had a Facebook conversation with PA and a couple doctors.

Speaker 1:

And I was saying I really don't know about this medication.

Speaker 2:

You know, COVID sucks, but I really don't know about it. And I had doctors and PAs literally say we just want to end the pandemic and be able to come out of our houses. And I was like that's no reason to take an experiment. Come out of your house, stop being afraid, like we're out of our house working all the time. How many of y'all are dying of covid? I mean, you're working in a hospital right now. You shouldn't be afraid to go to the store. Um, so so that being said, they came out with this experiment and I was probably gonna take it, because I've taken every shot known to man through the military and everything like that, and you know I was.

Speaker 2:

I was probably going to end up just taking it. Uh, but I right, when I started rolling it out, you know they they did it in certain numbers, like certain people could have it at a certain time the medical personnel they tried to do first I was still. They didn't make us at that time. They were just saying y'all offered it right now. It was before they really hammered down. But while they were offering it, they started offering it certain age groups and everything. And there was this I I called it a pfizer line because what, what do you really call those makeshift clinics that they were putting in parking lots? You?

Speaker 1:

know, here's your jelly doughnut.

Speaker 2:

Take this experiment. Yeah, so it was weird, so I called it a Pfizer line, but this makes makeshift Pfizer clinic. I got a 911 call too, and this is it's. I don't like saying it's. It is glory to God, but not because a lady died, a person died, so it's a hard one for me. Thank you God for everything that occurs and how you want it to occur, and thank you God for the warnings, but it's just tragedy. But I got a call to to a Pfizer line where the person had got their shot and they died.

Speaker 2:

Me and fire were working the code. I mean, we're all these people are lined up behind behind where the person got there. They had these tables up there where they were getting their shots. They had a waiting section because they're supposed to wait I don't know 15, 20 minutes or something, and but there's this line of people watching us just CPR, intubate, pushing medications, and then the nurse that gives the shots came over to me and while I'm literally working this code, working this patient, the nurse says this is the second one that's died in two weeks. My alarm bells were really going off then I was like one.

Speaker 2:

they're just telling us this is supposed to be super safe and I'm seeing a dead body and we would. Sadly, we couldn't save the patient and as far as I know, there's at least two in that one makeshift clinic that died within two weeks. Who knows how many, who knows? I mean because I after that I tried to call news agencies. I tried to call because I started getting shut down online. So I was trying to call the news agencies, I was trying to call anyone that could get the word out that, hey, this could be dangerous.

Speaker 2:

No callbacks, no one wanted to talk to you about it, no one cared or believed you. I could show them my EMT license, I could say all the things and they just wouldn't call you back. I ended up going to North Dakota after that. Not long after, on a contract, they did a big Pfizer push there on a native reservation and they wanted all their people to get it. And that small hospital, the doctor that was there, because the doctor ended up retiring after this. She was done.

Speaker 2:

But we had so many people die. I mean, even our nurse manager collapsed on the job with multiple blood clots in their lungs and we had to fly them out. One of the other nurses that was with me lost her husband a day after the shot to a heart attack. That guy's brother died a week after. Like we were seeing that much death. Wow, the doctor pulled me aside because I was very vocal about the Pfizer. I was talking to people, like I've already seen, like people die from this. This is weird. I don't want to take this now and they still haven't told us we have to take it to keep working. Yet they were doing weird rules, like for me, since I hadn't taken it. They were doing weird rules.

Speaker 2:

They were like you had to be tested all this time you have to always wear 84 masks and you know, walk around like you're some kind of plague victim, while all these people that are taking it are dying. I'm sitting there like I'm not dying.

Speaker 2:

Y'all like this, maybe put two and two together. Well, the doctor came over to me in the hallway and said hey, we're experiencing genocide, this is genocide. And that just floored me, that, coming from a doctor saying we're experiencing genocide in the middle of an ER on my shift. And that's when I did my first take talk video, because I've already tried YouTube another day, so that's when I did first really came on tick-tock and I went out to my ambulance back. I Said, fine, I'm gonna show my face, because I didn't even want to show my face before that. I would just do like voiceovers and stuff, because I didn't want people to see who I was, because I I can already tell there's a dangerous thing happening if the news agencies aren't calling you back, if people are dying and they're telling you it's safe, something big is happening. And it was spooky, I'm not gonna lie, there was. There was a fear factor to it and I was like, fine, this is, this is done.

Speaker 2:

So I put my face on camera and I did a TikTok video and I said I'm a paramedic, did CPR to Pfizer line. That line lost two patients that I know within two weeks. That was pretty much the video and I posted it to TikTok and that video got millions of views fast, like fast. But it was the comments, thousands and thousands of comments of I lost my mom, I lost my dad, I lost my brother, I lost my uncle. This many days after the shot, this many days after that, I could not keep up with trying to type to people. It was just boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, there was some naysayers in there too, but for the most part I was just seeing a tidal wave of people talking about death of a loved one after their shots. And within 24 hours TikTok deleted the video, banned my account, deleted the video. But the reason they gave me was for quote unquote terroristic activity. They called me a terrorist for trying to warn you after a doctor in an ER told me we're experiencing genocide.

Speaker 1:

Incredible. Yeah, wow, okay. So going forward the mandates, they come out across the board, the board. How did you, how are you processing things like internally, as those are happening, like, okay, I don't want to take this. I'm seeing a lot of signs that are pointing in this direction.

Speaker 2:

With the mandates. I mean that I ended up. I went to that left that contract went to the next contract and that's when they really pushed the mandates. Okay, at that contract they were saying you have until this date or you can no longer work at this hospital anymore or any hospital, and most people were just caving because a lot of people did not want to take it, but they just ended up caving. There was a handful of us at the very like I mean the very last couple of days, but I'd already put in for my exemption and I saw I was worried, like are they going to take my exemption or not?

Speaker 2:

and my exemption literally read and I got approved. It said due to the fact that I've done cpr and a pfizer line, I cannot in good conscience put this substance in my body.

Speaker 1:

Uh give to caesar?

Speaker 2:

what is caesar's give to god? What is god's? This temple belongs to god. And that got approved. I got approval letter for that and and, uh, I showed that to my, my friends at work. I was like this got approved, like on the last day where they were and a lot of them still caved and went ahead and just got the shot. They were just too scared to rock the boat, which, sadly, I mean they would have probably lost their job anyways Because even though I got the approval letter, they still canceled my contract and said we don't need you anymore. Thanks, have a good day. Goodbye. They wanted complete compliance, complete compliance.

Speaker 1:

And they got, even though they were hurting, for staff needed staff.

Speaker 2:

They were willing to get rid of anyone that wouldn't, you know, bend the knee per se. And it took me a couple months after that to find a job. I was calling around to ambulance services. I was watching people, you know, because our call times on ambulances if you call 911 right now it should take depending on where you live. If you live in the city or somewhere near the city, it should take 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes for the ambulance to get to you. But a lot of the places I've worked we want to be there in 10 minutes or less. That's just. Even in the big cities we want to be there in 10 minutes or less. We get rated on our timings. Plus, if you're having a heart attack or a stroke, if we're there too long, you're dead. It's tissue death. I mean the amount of time that we're not trying to actively intervene, the worst chance you have at survival. So at the time when I was fired not fired, but let go from that contract and trying to find another job, and people were telling me no, no, you can't. Actually they were hiring me and then telling me no, because I didn't have the vaccine. They were going. Yes, we need staff, really bad. Can we see your vaccine card? I don't have my vaccine card. I'm not going to get that. Here's why I'm not going to get it. What I've experienced, well gosh, we. We really wish we could hire you because we really need you.

Speaker 2:

I talked to people that were actually hiring for ambulance services and I would just say what's your call times right now? You said you're really needing people. What's your call times? They were telling me 45 minutes to an hour. They were lacking staff, so bad that it was taking ambulances 45 minutes to an hour to get to patients. So imagine your loved one dies laying on the floor dead and it takes 45 minutes to an hour for the ambulance to get there to try to do anything. One your loved one's probably just gonna be dead. There's nothing they're gonna be able to do at that point in time, unless someone's doing just awesome CPR and breathing and taking care of business, aed and all that your loved one's probably just done.

Speaker 2:

And I would tell that to these people that were hiring and I'd be like y'all realize you're killing people by following these rules right, like by me being an able-bodied medic for all these years and you telling me I have to take this experiment or I can't go help your community. You're actively killing your community. You understand that, and some of them would actually say, yes, but we don't have a choice. We don't have a choice. One of them even said we have to have the federal money to stay afloat. Most people don't pay their bills, so without the federal money we can't be in business. So if we don't follow the rules, our business goes away. Wow, that's, yeah, that's a flooring moment in your life when you realize that people's lives really don't. I mean, you always sort of knew that to the government and to the businesses, lives really didn't matter. But lives really don't matter when it comes to money. They will choose money over your life almost 100% of the time.

Speaker 2:

I found an ambulance service that literally said I'll take your exemption. I'll even write you one myself, you don't have to take it. And I found that. Here's something for anybody listening. It was two months of hell of being worried about how I'm going to feed my family, what I'm going to do, and I got on my knees and I cried out to God. I get a little emotional at heart because I remember getting on my knees and physically crying, crying up to God, and within days this job showed up and this guy was like you're a follower of Christ, you don't want to take the shot. We got an ambulance. You've been doing this forever Go to work. And it was just boom. So just boom, boom, boom. So at some point in your life, if you ever feel like getting on your knees and crying out to God, do it. Get on your knees and just wail to God. God already knows your heart, but sometimes you just got to let it out and it works. God will be there for you.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So let's pivot to kind of closer to current state where we're at with you and your experiences, experiences on X, which I highly recommend followers, listeners, viewers to follow Harry Fisher on X, because I came across a couple of his posts in my feed and that's what initially got the ball rolling in my head of wow, I haven't been able to, we haven't been able to get somebody in the medical field to speak about their real experience because their job won't let them, they can't speak in a capacity as a nurse, emt, a particular jurisdiction. Again to Harry's point, the worry about negative feedback and backlash. And coming back to fortunately I learned in Business 101, the goal of business is to make money, make a profit. We're seeing and hearing firsthand how this was occurring. How did the book process get started? Were you wanting to share with the world?

Speaker 2:

get started of you wanting to share with the world. It was uh, well, I mean, I was. I was already writing. Basically I'm sharing my in the book, I'm sharing my journal, basically I uh, a publisher got a hold of me because I'd already been sharing my journal online sharing posts and just sharing my experiences and you know anything from writing poetry about what I'm experiencing to because that's another way I vent is to write.

Speaker 2:

So I was, I was just writing things and sharing with the public and a publisher got ahold of me and we started talking and became friends and she ended up becoming basically my also co-author, because she's also had experiences as well that have been just brutal throughout this. This whole thing and uh, and she, she and I just became friends and I started, right, I was writing mine and and she was, she was already writing too and we just we got together and it just, it all just fell in perfectly together and um and uh, and that's pretty much how that went. That's another God's sin, because she's she's a super follower of Christ and it's just, it's just it's. It's like God was like okay, you're supposed to be here, you're supposed to meet this person and y'all supposed to know each other, and and then it's, it's all just going to work out, just trusting me and that's. And that's what I've done is just giving it all to God, and this is where we've ended up, and it's amazing to me that that I haven't been fired yet.

Speaker 2:

Like I thank God for that, because there are so many people actively trying to take my license. I mean, the National Board has been inundated with people calling about trying to get me fired. So the people that hold my license have renewed my license recently, even with people actively trying to take it, and that's just. I mean that's a godsend right there. That's truly beautiful to me. That being said, anyone out there that wants to speak out, don't be afraid of the backlash. Don't have fear. Do follow God. If you're going to do it, you're going to get so much negativity. You're going to get a lot of hate. You're going to be called every name under the sun. They're going to try to find anything that they can bad about you. I mean, like, if you're bald they'll call you bald.

Speaker 2:

If your hair is long like mine, they'll make fun of your hair being long, though they'll even. I've had them. I've had them find pictures of my kids and send me DMs of my kids saying we're watching you, like I, like I'm telling you it gets bad, it will get bad, but have faith, don't be afraid and and speak truth, speak truth and just, and just keep doing that and hopefully we can win. Win this war, because this is an information war it is.

Speaker 1:

Can you speak uh, just uh, about how x has given you a platform of all the big tech companies, that, whether it was when elon it and how that came about, and how that is helping you share? You wanted to share years ago but now you're sharing via the book, which is a compilation of your journal writing, which has helped some of the anxiety and fear, which I think is helpful for anybody listening or watching that. You're having some anxiety. Try journaling. That's one thing my counselor has recommended to try, so give that a shot.

Speaker 2:

Elon Musk buying that platform was also a godsend, because it opened the door for people to actually speak freely. That was super kind of him to do. I'm not going to say I know the man's heart, but I am very appreciative of him doing that and allowing us to speak, because it's given us a place to talk. Noah, maybe Rumble. I think Rumble actually lets people talk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Dan Bongino.

Speaker 2:

Okay, rumble, but with Elon, I could actually write and post to people, could actually, you know, whenever, whenever someone in government's talking, I could actually be like, hey, I thought this, we need to talk about it, so I could actually, you know, get some information out there and it's allowed.

Speaker 2:

It's allowed me to grow on that platform and reach a broader audience and meet some amazing people, like people that are that, the people that if, if the if the Jewish people were ever getting loaded up into trucks and taken to a camp, the people that I'm meeting are the ones that would be standing in front of those trucks, the ones that would be stopping it, not the ones that you know, like we saw, that would just sit and be silent and be like you know, yes, take the people. No, I'm meeting people that will stand in front of the trucks and stop it or at least do everything they can to just stop this genocide. And so, elon, doing that, that was, that was great. So, thank you very, elon, if you ever do get to see this, thank you very much for for allowing us to speak truth to power.

Speaker 1:

It's been a been a big help. Awesome, uh, we're getting close to time, uh, so do you share how people can get in touch with you, learn about your work, learn about your you know, purchasing your book all that fun stuff uh, get in touch with me.

Speaker 2:

Basically, the the best way right now is on x, as to you know, it's the only real platform that I have able to talk on. So, uh, harry fisher emtp, on x, harry fisher emtp, you can find me there. And if you uh, if you, if you make comments to me on there, because I want to get to know people, yeah, so if you go on there and you want to just uh be, to just be my friend and get to know me, talk to me, let me know who you are and then I'll follow you back eventually. It takes me sometimes a little while, I'm sorry, but I do like to follow people back to friends to make friends. I don't like the word follow. That's one thing. I wish that would change, because you follow nobody but God.

Speaker 2:

I like the whole friend aspect better. But if you go on there and you actually friend me, then just say some nice things.

Speaker 2:

Comment and then inevitably, eventually I'll end up friending you back and then, if you have something to say in DM, I like to share other people's information too. Like, if you have a story to tell and you go underneath one of my posts and tell it, I'll repost it. I'll at least try to read all of them. Sometimes there's a lot, but I try to find those stories that people are trying to get out, and I'll try to repost your story too, because we need the information out. I want your story.

Speaker 2:

I want my story out there, I want your story out there, I want the truth out there, and that, through God, is what inevitably will set us free.

Speaker 1:

Right, and then the book.

Speaker 2:

they can find that at you can find that at fishersbookcom. Okay, f-i-s-h-e-r fishersbookcom. Okay, f-i-s-h-e-r. Fishersbookcom.

Speaker 1:

Perfect. Is there anything we didn't cover that you wanted to share? We've got about a minute and a half.

Speaker 2:

I just appreciate y'all having me on and I appreciate your and I'm really I'll be praying that you. What was it?

Speaker 1:

It was three million or three billion? Three billion, yeah, three billion.

Speaker 2:

I pray you get to reach three billion and help three billion and that y'all are successful in everything you put your hand to and always put God first and I will try to support in any way I possibly can to help you reach your goals, brother.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much and hopefully at some point we can meet in person and, like I said, just chat sometime. So we'll definitely keep in touch. And thanks for again responding through DM, through X. That's how I reach out to Harry, so you can do the same. And again, just trying just to get information, the facts out there. It's kind of the same. And again, just, you know, we're trying just to get information, the facts, out there. It's kind of the goal. Well, thank you, harry, for joining us on the second episode. Wish you nothing but the best and thank you for being brave and doing and sharing what a lot of people might be have been fearful or afraid of doing.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, brother, I appreciate you too.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and we want to thank you, our listeners, our viewers, or if you're checking out our transcript of this episode, the second and the two part series with our guests Harry Fisher very powerful information, very powerful content. We would appreciate it if you would share, like, subscribe. We're trying to get information out and share. Harry has the real-life experience, the facts that he was seeing with his own eyes and the monitors, and that's all he's doing, and that's all he's doing. So we definitely applaud him for being brave and putting his trust somewhere where it's helpful, even if it takes a minute for things to click. So we will see you on our next episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast. I am your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, justin Allen Hayes, and until next episode, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.

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